Flock Condemns False Child Predator Allegations, Yet Calls Critics Terrorists

prophesi•about 2 hours ago

Whether or not Flock employees are child predators or not, the crux of the issue lies in the third parties Flock allows access to these cameras. For a link to their actual blog post where they make this comment: https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/understanding-flocks-testin...

(The terrorist allegations are from an interview December of last year https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46357850 )

cyanydeez•1 minute ago

I don't think third party access matters in the reason it's being scrutinized. Flock is the tip of the commercial security state offloaded by the government to it can "sanewash" it as a input into government surveillance.

I don't care who operates flock; it's being used to do government surveillance at scale to avoid privacy laws.

retired•about 3 hours ago

Happy to life in a country where AI cameras are not a thing.

jfengel•about 2 hours ago

Where is that? Are they banned, or just haven't reached you yet?

As dumb as it is that we've invited a corporation to spy with government approval, I suspect that less formal but still ubiquitous surveillance is coming for you, too, unless your government actively prevents it.

retired•5 minutes ago

All of Europe. Haven’t seen an AI camera anywhere.

realo•about 2 hours ago

Yes... me too. It is called a democratic country, where citizens value the environment created around them by their government.

That is NOT what the USA is, at the moment. Very happy not to live there, or go there in any capacity.

jfengel•about 2 hours ago

We Americans are easily terrified. It just takes a little eyebrow-waggling to suggest that the criminals are easily identified by the color of their skin, so that you're safe from any tactics used to suppress them.

We used to think of ourselves as gradually getting better. Turns out that all that accomplished was to encourage resentment, and we finally got tired of pretending otherwise. I dunno if we can ever get back the illusion of improvement, since it will be clear for a very long time just how powerful the urge to cower is. I hope it's soon enough for you to come visit some day, because we do also have a lot of virtues, but for the moment it's not safe for the inhabitants, much less the strangers.

nslsm•about 2 hours ago

Yes, in his texts Cleisthenes was pretty clear that AI cameras weren't acceptable in a democracy.

freedomben•about 2 hours ago

A lot of people seem to attribute voter decisions they don't like with != democracy. I don't think people realize that democracies can also be surveillance police state dystopias if that's what the people vote for. It doesn't make it less of a democracy

trekkie99•about 3 hours ago

> “Accusing someone of spying on children is not a policy disagreement; it is a life-altering allegation.” - flock

“life altering”? Oh so like a women and her kids being held at gun point while face down on the hot tarmac of a parking lot cause your stupid ai cameras got the wrong car.

iAMkenough•about 2 hours ago

Pretty amazing they’re framing it as an “accusation,” when there’s access logs obtained via FOIA request that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were spying on children.

frankharv•about 2 hours ago

Whats worse is the town has snubbed its residents:

https://www.axios.com/local/atlanta/2026/04/17/dunwoody-floc...

How did a Jewish Community Center end up allowing FLOCK to access its security cameras?

Pool and Gymnastics seem like sensitive places unless PEDO.

jfengel•about 2 hours ago

I hate to say it, but Jewish organizations get threats all the time. Just yesterday I was at a temple that removed its "reserved for Rabbi" parking space, because he had been threatened and didn't want to make identification easier.

An explanation rather than an excuse. But it's not entirely surprising that they would sign up for a service that might help them catch offenders.

Forgeties79•about 2 hours ago

I don’t know why they don’t like being accused of spying on children when they seem to be doing everything they can to spy on children.

micromacrofoot•about 2 hours ago

it's no surprise that the pedophile surveillance company is working with the pedophile presidential administration, what does this company want? a thank you for spying on kids

Flock Condemns False Child Predator Allegations, Yet Calls Critics Terrorists

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