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kedislav•about 5 hours ago
traceroute66•about 3 hours ago
To be fair, I think the organisers are mostly to blame here.

The linked article states "certain invited speakers and participants remain subject to pending administrative and security clearances, which have not yet been concluded".

I have friends who organise conferences as a $dayjob, including in countries where political and government clearances are required for conferences attended by speakers and participants from external countries.

These clearances are typically required for BOTH the event AND each foreigner individually (and the foreigner will often be unable to even apply for, let alone obtain their visa until they have the clearance).

Lets just say that organising a Human Rights Conference in such a country would probably not be the smartest idea in the world.

Even for an uncontroversial conference, the clearance process is excruciatingly painful. I dread to think what it would entail for a Human Rights conference !

They took the risk. It didn't pay off.

Hope they had solid events insurance to cover all the costs.

skeledrew•about 1 hour ago
I feel like they should've been constantly wary about something like this happening and had fallback plans. Maybe just keep the entire thing an online event; sure online may not have the same kick as in person, but at least there wouldn't ever be a bunch of people with travel arrangements in limbo.
unixhero•about 3 hours ago
Why the heck were they arranging it in a development country.
2OEH8eoCRo0•about 5 hours ago
They likely cancelled at the behest of China

https://x.com/BethanyAllenEbr/status/2049683100565950937

traceroute66•about 2 hours ago
> They likely cancelled at the behest of China

Look, I'm no defender of China but ....

First, read what I already said up-thread. The organisers clearly took a risk, it didn't pay off. If they did not understand the risk they were taking on, that's on them.

Second, Google the agreement referred to in that Twitter post. It was a standard China Belt and Road Financing thing, so super common in Africa that it's barely news.

I really don't think you seriously can pin the Chinese theory on this one.

Arodex•about 4 hours ago
Or the USA.

The fact that both are equally likely tells you all you need to know about the current state of the USA.

yeah879846•about 4 hours ago
Who would have to be threatened so much to cancel this? Even if it is canceled it does not mean that those who were going still can't meet and discuss things.

'Oh its canceled, well shit.. guess we can't do ANYTHING now.'

tbrownaw•about 3 hours ago
> Who would have to be threatened so much to cancel this?

What?

The government of the host country said some of the themes were potentially at odds with their national policy, and they weren't sure they liked some of the people involved.

That doesn't sound like anyone was threatened, it sounds like they should have picked somewhere with a stronger tradition of free dialogue.

anonymousiam•about 3 hours ago
You said; "it sounds like they should have picked somewhere with a stronger tradition of free dialogue."

Where would that be in today's world? Within the past decade, nearly every country in the world has overtly attacked digital freedoms. Can you name one country that has improved digital freedoms during the past decade?

It seems to me that this conference should be held online only, and hosted from an undisclosed location.

intended•about 4 hours ago
Most organizations don’t have the resources to let people travel without an actual event on the other end.

I could be wrong, but I suspect visas may be affected as well.

The organizers and attendees will try and coordinate something else. However, throwing something together on zoom, at such short notice is going to be a crap show.

The schedules wouldn’t survive unscathed, since speakers will start dropping out at this point.

If they do manage to get something together, they run the real risk of it being a rickety and frustrating event.

fortran77•about 5 hours ago
It's misleading to call "RightsCon" a "Human Rights Conference."
radiorental•about 5 hours ago
Why?
geodel•about 4 hours ago
It may be because some folks do not consider Human Rights as Rights.