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hn_throwaway_99about 2 hours ago
So, perhaps a dumb question, but the article mentions that 14 steps have been added to the base of the Angel of Independence monument, and the Wikipedia article mentions the same things:

> Originally, nine steps led to the base, but due to the sinking of the ground, an ongoing problem in Mexico City, fourteen more steps have been added.

So why didn't the monument itself also sink? Does it have piles going down to bedrock or something?

resist_futilityabout 2 hours ago
thousands of wooden piles to create a foundation with the first one even failing and the foundation being reconstructed

http://www.mexicomaxico.org/ParisMex/resumen.htm

sandworm101about 2 hours ago
Also from wikipedia: ... "The commission determined that the foundations of the monument were poorly planned, so it was decided to demolish the structure."

So yes, it has an engineered foundation, a double-engineered foundation. The roads around it almost certainly do not. So it is plausible that the monument is not sinking as quickly.

wartywhoa23about 2 hours ago
Angels don't sink, they rise! :)
AntiUSAbahabout 2 hours ago
Depending of what stories you want to reference with this: Lucifer, Belial, Beelzebub all did not 'rise'.
wartywhoa23about 1 hour ago
Surely The Angel Of Independence must ascend, no? :)
pcrhabout 2 hours ago
The amount of subsidence is quite dramatic, up to 25 cm per year!

What are the practical consequences of this today, and what is being done to remedy this?

nadermxabout 1 hour ago
They are clearly not doing enough to remedy this; The only real solucion is to stop pumping the ground water, like I believe Japan did.
Schiendelman5 minutes ago
Miami has a similar issue, doesn't it?
gurjeetabout 3 hours ago
For the uninitiated, ISRO -> Indian Space Research Organization
anigbrowlabout 3 hours ago
I get that the article is primarily about the satellite capabilities, but it's rather annoying it doesn't mention what the future impact of the subsidence might be.
greggsyabout 3 hours ago
I think that it’s quite responsible not to speculate on something they’re not an expert on.

It’s exactly the sort of news bite that catastrophists glom onto.

This is responsible journalism.

PunchyHamsterabout 2 hours ago
> I think that it’s quite responsible not to speculate on something they’re not an expert on.

"Recent satellite maps show Mexico City getting closer to hell at alarming rate"

anigbrowlabout 2 hours ago
They could just call a geologist and ask, or cite some published works on the topic. It's not responsible, it's lazy.
icegreentea2about 1 hour ago
This is a phys.org "article". They're usually just rehashed press releases, and this one is particularly bad - it's literally just the NASA press release with the last 2 paragraphs chopped off. https://www.nasa.gov/missions/nisar/us-indian-space-mission-...
AntiUSAbahabout 2 hours ago
It breaks water lines which increases the water problem even faster. On one side because its expensive to fix and on the other side because small leaks lead to massive water losses you don't find fast or easy.
robocat13 minutes ago
Also broken mains lead to sinkholes: https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cj9zex1r3kjo
barney54about 2 hours ago
Nor does it say how much subsidence the satellite documented.
barbazooabout 2 hours ago
There's this under the picture.

> New data from NISAR shows where Mexico City and its environs subsided by up to a few centimeters per month (shown in blue) between Oct. 25, 2025, and Jan. 17, 2026