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amanzi•about 2 hours ago
Fin/Intercom: "Fin is defining the AI era of customer experience"

Zendesk: "AI-powered service platform"

Freshdesk: "AI-powered platform for modern customer service"

Where are the companies that are proudly promoting "human powered" customer support?

dhotson•about 1 hour ago
I work at Influx (https://influx.com) which is human powered customer support.

We've found that inevitably AIs have some error rate and customers want to escalate to a person.

Our strategy has moved to:

- Let humans do the things that humans are good at: judgement, decision making, high novelty situations.

- Let AI do the things that computers are good at: repetitive tasks that require persistent effort

We've seen a lot of clients turn on these AI tools in their helpdesk.. hope for the best.. and get crap results. The tech isn't the hard part, the AI needs access to high quality context to answer questions accurately. But that requires more than just connecting your google drive or scraping your website.

We've found that a skilled human operator + AI is the best way to engineer high quality context to get the most out of the tools.

gassi•about 2 hours ago
Ran out of VC money now that only AI companies get funding.
skinfaxi•about 2 hours ago
Humans are expensive! (AI is expensive too, but less directly and you don't have to pay for insurance (yet))
tekacs•about 1 hour ago
I... really would've expected this to be delayed while they acquired fin.com, but... seemingly fin.com is still a random finance/crypto startup?
embedding-shape•9 minutes ago
Indeed, really strange.

> But the company behind it will be named after our leading customer agent platform, Fin. All of our 1,400 employees are now employed by Fin. You’re reading a post by the CEO of Fin.

Would have expected to read this on fin.com, not intercom.com, and also weird they never mention what domain name they'll use for this.

1123581321•about 2 hours ago
This announcement makes sense to me because I listened to this interview between the cofounder and one of the Collison brothers awhile back. https://cheekypint.transistor.fm/11

I recommend it if you’d enjoy a couple of Irishmen going back and forth about tech and business.

In short, Fin is their agent. They charge a dollar per successful customer session so they’re incentivized to make it helpful.

At the time of the interview, it sounded like Fin was still smaller than the help desk software but they saw it as having more potential. I guess it’s big enough now to justify renaming the company.

bfc1890•about 2 hours ago
Coincidentally, I'd wager there are far fewer search results for "Fin CEO allegations"
refulgentis•about 2 hours ago
I didn't know about this and yeah that's not good, I was prepared to agree but....7 years ago, if my Googling is correct? Idk, hard to lean into my jaundice on this one.
nodesocket•about 2 hours ago
What are said allegations I must have missed this news cycle.
danpalmer•about 3 hours ago
> Sometimes you see a corporate announcement that’s so obvious and so late, it’s almost an admission of failure.

...is this one of those times? Where does "Fin" come from?

I have a lot of mindshare built-up for Intercom based on integrating it, being a customer at one point, and using it on every SaaS landing page from 2010 to 2020. Ditching that sort of brand awareness for a new name seems like an odd choice.

kevin_thibedeau•about 1 hour ago
> but Fin is our future.

Looks like the end to me.

captain_coffee•about 2 hours ago
Besides a standard plain old rebrand - will there be any tangible benefit / gain from this move? Any reason for the rebrand to begin with?
michaelsmanley•about 1 hour ago
Pronounced, "effin," right?
xnx•about 1 hour ago
Posted on intercom.com ...
Kim_Bruning•about 3 hours ago
Isn't Fin the same agent Anthropic uses for customer service?
AznHisoka•about 3 hours ago
Given its the first logo they show in their homepage, yes..
htrp•about 3 hours ago
What exactly is Fin?
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jdw64•about 3 hours ago
Intercom is dead. Fin.
typeofhuman•about 1 hour ago
Continuing the tradition of AI-company logos looking like buttholes.
enochthered•3 minutes ago
Came here to say the same thing.

What’s up with that?

bombcar•about 2 hours ago
I have no idea what this is or what they do, and reading it made me realize that I still don’t - but for goodness sake can we stop naming things with dictionary words‽

And intercom is a thing, and Fin means fish or end. At least call it Fintercom or something.

vladimirzaytsev•about 3 hours ago
who cares?
-cl-username•about 3 hours ago
shit nobody cares about award
wrs•about 3 hours ago
So Intercom has increasing market share, and they're increasing investment in it, but it is henceforth to be considered "baggage" and a past to be destroyed? Is this Innovator's Dilemma or Osborne Effect? Either way I'm glad I don't manage the Intercom team with my CEO writing stuff like this.

<s> On the other hand, look how well this same argument worked out for Block. </s>

sebastiennight•about 1 hour ago
Now I'm curious. What's Block?