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Jtsummers•about 8 hours ago
Actual title:

> Pentagon puts building blocks in place for Cuba invasion

b3ing•about 8 hours ago
They want land, it’s the next Hawaii for real estate
jeisc•about 4 hours ago
the USA soft power stopped working so they resorted to offshore warfare to force the non compliant governments into lock step
Bombthecat•about 7 hours ago
Time for a new stock ath!
mindslight•about 8 hours ago
Let's try some 4-D chess. What is the overall plan here? Open up multiple wars-of-choice to settle decades old vendettas held by aging boomers, deplete the United States' stockpile of weapons, close up the suitcase operation when the People finally get wise to the treachery, and then abscond to China where they already call Trump the "Nation Builder" ? Meanwhile Big Tech is hoping their panopticon and AI drones will be complete enough that they can keep the People under control as what remains of the sidelined government continues burning, ushering in their desired corpo-authoritarian society?
pram•about 8 hours ago
Everything I have seen seems like Trump was really expecting Iran to be a “3 day special operation” so the humiliating boondoggle and stand-off/interceptor etc depletion wasn’t part of the 4D chess. They probably expected Cuba would already be “done” at this point.
fakedang•about 7 hours ago
Someone formerly in intelligence told me that the plan in Iran seemingly was to coordinate the protests with strikes on vital government and military installations as a "humanitarian intervention", but the timing went off badly because they didn't expect the protests to get crushed so quickly and lose steam. But they decided to go ahead in the boondoggle anyways, on Israeli insistence.
quantified•about 7 hours ago
Not paying attention to the fact that the most fearless and motivated protesters had just been killed.
caymanjim•about 7 hours ago
Do you honestly think there's a plan?
nacozarina•about 7 hours ago
If the US is mired in its own domestic unrest and military misadventures in the Americas, it will be unable to intervene effectively in conflicts in Europe or Asia.
quantified•about 7 hours ago
Imagine being the next president inheriting this dumpster fire. I always thought Obama was handed a poisoned chalice. This will be insane.
openuntil3am•about 7 hours ago
> the next president

I appreciate your optimism.

oneneptune•about 7 hours ago
This is presuming the next president isn't supportive of these policies and a continuation of the policy.
AuthAuth•about 7 hours ago
It really does need to be someone who has been in the political game their whole life. It cannot be another inexperienced populist.
nirui•about 4 hours ago
> and then abscond to China

I'm a Chinese, from what I learned, you probably don't see the situation clearly.

The problem is influence. America wants to solve the Cuba (and Iran) problem since very long ago, and right now, while China is busy patching up their economic slop/mismanagement and Russia is trapped in Ukraine, is simply the best time to do so.

With Cuba is cleared out, the Americas continent will be cleared of major (and loud) threats against America. That alone is beneficial.

It's the same but opposite reason why America is supporting Japan, Taiwan and Europe etc, to control the influence of their competitors like China, Russia, India, Brazil etc (a.k.a Global South). It also allow Americans to keep a tap on Japan, Taiwan and Europe (etc) so they remains in American control.

That's probably the 4-D chess you talked about.

Also, the "Trump the 'Nation Builder'" part: In China, "Nation Builder" was a popular forename, it means "someone who contributes to their own country/nation". In the Trump context, it means that Trump's policies is benefiting China's goal. That is, when compare to Biden's policy which is much sophisticated and on point (while Trump's is blunt and wasteful).

But I don't think American's soft gesture towards China will last after Cuba and Iran is dealt with (if) in a American victory though. Unlike what the "New World Order" conspiracy suggests, I don't think this world is stupid enough to not to pursue the maximums goal when possible. That's probably why Americans are working towards the maximums goal inches by inches.

pstuart•about 8 hours ago
I think they expect a repeat of Venezuela, which was a tidy operation for what it was (and something I highly disapprove of). But even though these operations are done in the name of "regime change", it's just about giving Trump the opportunity to cosplay as a warrior and to further distract from the dumpster fire of his administration.
ajross•about 7 hours ago
It was a coup, not an "operation". We provided assistance to a domestic takeover. The only Venezuelan forces acting in opposition were the ones who didn't get the orders to stand down in time.
pstuart•about 6 hours ago
Potato, potato. The administration said words about stuff it did and the reasons for it, and then there's the stuff that happenend for the reasons they happened.

It was about scratching an itch, not "spreading democracy".

Considering the US history of meddling south of the border, it was pretty low key. Fucked up, but low key.

mindslight•about 7 hours ago
Venezuela was literally the only thing Trump has done that made me sick with a feeling of "this is going to be well received by most people". (Distinct from the feeling that something should be poorly received, but then seeing the useful idiots lap it up anyway. The instances of this have been unenumerable)

Hopefully if they do attack Cuba, it will play a little differently with one huge quagmire (or loss, depending on perspective) already on the table.

rayiner•about 7 hours ago
> Venezuela was literally the only thing Trump has done that made me sick with a feeling of "this is going to be well received by most people".

You didn't think Trump's border policy was going to be well received? That seems... out of touch give how prominent an issue it was in the election.

People remain quite positive on Trump's immigration policy; with Iran and inflation being his big weak spots: https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/HHP... (pp. 25, 26).

I don’t know how invading Cuba would be received. I feel like the biggest source of consternation about Iran is the effect on gas prices. That’s not at issue in Cuba.

d--b•about 6 hours ago
I feel that there would be a real opportunity to make peace with Cuba at the moment. It’s really weak with its major allies engaged in conflicts.

But I doubt that Trump and the Cuban diaspora in the US just want peace or remove the leaders like they did in Venezuela. They really want to take the whole thing.

Rich Cuban families that were driven out by the revolution want their land back. And Trump probably wants another golf resort and its name on the 51st state.

It’s a shame that the president is not great at making deals.