AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

The worst part:

> In addition, Williamson said that Giovannini (or his agent) had submitted patches that were incorrect and then "replied to objections with LLM-generated justifications that eventually overwhelmed the maintainer into merging the fix"

Every day the gpg web of trust looks better. If only we didn't spend the last 20 years trying as hard as possible to do anything but allow user side encryption and signing.

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says

> To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified.

Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether this is someone experiencing a health episode?)

[1] https://lwn.net/ml/all/AS8PR08MB6055AE3054B34F6A567AC95BCF08...

Bad title. This isn't an agent "running amok", this is an early experiment in carrying out an Xz attack by using an agent to build trust (and hacking/impersonating a known-good contributor identity). The agent is obeying commands it was given, the exact opposite of running amok, and although the execution isn't particularly effective, it is having some success (patches have been accepted).

This is deeply scary, not because "agents are running amok" but because a huge amount of our infrastructure is vulnerable to this kind of attack, and if bad people are utilising LLM agents to carry them out, we're in for a wild ride over the next few years.

There is a natural pace of humans requiring food, water and sleep. The main issue with suspicious AI agents is that they never sleep. So it will take extra-coordination between timezones to ensure we don't let them in.

Fundamentally, until we can really prove we're humans online, open-source has a real problem on its hands. Contributions from people from identities known and consistent before the AI-age are fine, everyone else is suspicious. LGTM is a big risk nowadays.

At first I wanted to make a silly joke along the lines of "get your agents in line and behaving!" but as I read on it became a pretty scary situation.

Setting aside the potential supply chain attack I'm worried about the time lost going around these wild goose chases that unsupervised AI agents tend to throw other people on the receiving end on. Not only is there a lot of time lost on the maintainers side if they take this stuff seriously (and they seem to generally do) but on the side of the agents' wrangler how can they deem it OK to treat other people like this? While the solution would be to employ common decency, the tried and tested approach of you put in effort to write this so I guess I'll make some effort to read it, I feel that due to the onslaught of this kind of drive-by contributions (I think people have generally started to call them) will lead to a funny situation of having agents talk to each other on public forums basically.

Anyway, I went on a tangent but man the times we're living in are a bit extra wild compared to the previous wild times in recent history.

Bad patches are of course bad, but creating confident-looking noise for maintainers who are already stretched thin...now that's not good!

Issue trackers and PRs are definitely getting harder and harder to trust. That said, AI is helping ALOT in OSS, but we definitely need guardrails around provenance, automated issue actions, and sudden changes in a contributor’s behavior.

looks like LLMs aren't mature enough yet to play long-game xz-style attacks without detection... Scary stuff though :( These supply chain attacks are getting really wild

Back when [1] it was fashionable to advocate FOSS as ideology [2], we were thinking about tons of FOSS adversaries and how to protect from them - some real, some imaginary. The death of FOSS would come from big closed-source vendors, or from regulators (lobbied or just ignorant), from whatever.

We never envisioned that the actual FOSS death spiral would come from progress itself, much more so from AI...

[1] Oh what fun did we have. One of us in the Greek FOSS community actually put RMS in jail. [2] Something that I think nobody except RMS ever seriously believed in.

Prompt injection?

Or is this simply another example of why autonomous agents shouldn't get write access before earning trust?

"Someone using an AI agent ran amok in Fedora and elsewhere"

Shit like this makes me think it’s time we start regulating the software engineering discipline into formal certifications and licensing and then we ONLY take seriously any code developed by someone with such qualifications, and they must be very strict qualifications none of this self-taught bootcamp BS.

There is no other solution to agentic onslaught.