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tristanj•2 days ago
A large number of Airbnb hosts were using this Business Manager Visa as a way to stay in Japan.

People in China realized they could just buy/lease a guesthouse in Osaka / any tourist hotspot, and rent it out on Airbnb. Then they become a "business manager" and get a Japanese resident visa within 3 months. All you needed is to invest 5million yen, which is like 31k USD, which isn't much. People wrote entire online guides on how to do this. They even had brokers/agents helping people with the process [0].

Approximately half of all business manager visas went to Chinese nationals. In Osaka, 41% of all short-term rentals were operated by Chinese individuals [1]. The visa practically turned into an Airbnb host visa.

It's not surprising at all that Japan made the rules stricter.

[0] https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/06/05/japan/immigrati...

[1] https://chinatravelnews.com/article/186285/

timr•2 days ago
Yep. There was also a proliferation of Indian restaurants in the major cities, for the same basic reason. (Though I have to say that seems like a much harder road than operating a guesthouse for people from your own country, which is what I presume was the Chinese approach.)

Since you can bring in relatives on this kind of visa, I’ve heard the expression “One curry pot equals three people”. There have been stories in the Japanese press about long-time restauranteurs being shut down by the new rules.

rayiner•2 days ago
> Since you can bring in relatives on this kind of visa, I’ve heard the expression “One curry pot equals three people”.

Family reunification is a gaping loophole in any skilled immigration law and developed countries need to seriously limit it. The New York Times did a good podcast on how uncapped family reunification ended up being a loophole that totally overturned all the limits and compromises in the 1965 immigration reform laws in the U.S.: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/podcasts/the-daily/electi...

hylaride•2 days ago
It's a contentious issue in Canada, too. There are legit reasons families may want to bring in certain extended family members (grandparents for childcare, etc), but it becomes a chain. Canada's elderly benefits are designed for people that have lived here all their lives, so it adds a strain to healthcare and other services.

IMO it should be immediate family (spouse and children) and then maybe one should be able to sponsor 2 others on long term VISAs. But there would still be fraud (there always will be I suppose).

timr•2 days ago
> Family reunification is a gaping loophole in any skilled immigration law and developed countries need to seriously limit it.

I don’t know if I’d go that far. I tend to think it’s kind of cruel to separate families indefinitely in the name of labor, but I do see that restrictions are necessary to prevent abuse.

There’s an entire spectrum of reasonable debate here.

nicbou•2 days ago
I wouldn't call it a loophole but a compromise.

If you want to attract skilled labour, you must allow them to bring their dependents. They come as a unit.

mmooss•2 days ago
> Family reunification is a gaping loophole in any skilled immigration law and developed countries need to seriously limit it.

It's a huge benefit, giving more people the benefits of freedom, bringing the country benefits of more free people (including economic growth), and bringing families together.

As there is little documented downside, it's a huge win. I want people to have freedom and families to be together. What's the downside?

modo_mario•2 days ago
Same in belgium. It's almost if not the biggest source of migration.
mitthrowaway2•2 days ago
I have to say though, the abundant authentic, high-quality and low-cost Indian and Nepalese restaurants across the country was a real quality of life benefit for people living in Japan.
timr•2 days ago
I tend to be pretty sympathetic to anyone who does the insanely hard work of operating an actual restaurant.
alephnerd•2 days ago
Those "Indian" restaurants are primarily run by Nepali nationals.
timr•2 days ago
Yeah, I’ve heard that. Also Bangladeshi. I think it’s a southeast asian mix, really.
fc417fc802•2 days ago
I feel like letting people buy their way in to visas is actually a pretty good system from a strictly pragmatic standpoint but 5 million yen seems far too low.
torben-friis•2 days ago
>I feel like letting people buy their way in to visas is actually a pretty good system

That depends of what you're hoping to prevent.

If you want to filter out people who can't sustain themselves, petty crime or the like, it works. But it can open the door to a lot of unwanted effects.

A foreign national that just extracts capital by capturing real state and collecting rent is a great example, this person is a large net loss for the country.

rwmj•2 days ago
> A [person] that just extracts capital by capturing real state and collecting rent is a great example, this person is a large net loss for the country.

Even to their home country.

nradov•2 days ago
If foreign nationals are able to extract a lot of capital through rents then that's a sign that the government has made it too difficult to develop new rental housing.
Gareth321•2 days ago
> A foreign national that just extracts capital by capturing real state and collecting rent is a great example, this person is a large net loss for the country.

Is this a creative way of arguing that landlords are a net loss for the country? Because I would like to remind you that MANY people cannot afford to buy homes, and renting is how they make sure they don't become homeless.

TFNA•2 days ago
A number of European countries have allowed this; the 2010s were the heyday of this path. But it turns out that a lot of the people with big money to buy residence, got their money from organized crime, and it isn’t always easy to vet applicants (or corrupt officials could overlook the applicant’s background).
consp•2 days ago
The Maltese route is still open but a bit different since 2025. It's now citizenship by merit (aka the old by investment, since dumping money is considered a cultural contribution).
Gareth321•2 days ago
It's not a popular opinion but I agree. As long as the price is very high, it is almost guaranteed to be a net social benefit. Even more beneficial is that people who are wealth enough to buy a visa will usually also consume a lot (paying a lot of consumption tax), stimulate the economy, create businesses, and invest. Wealthy people are also significantly underrepresented in crime.
missingdays•2 days ago
A guesthouse in Osaka is 31k USD?
tristanj•2 days ago
5 million yen is the company capital requirement. They would form a company, invest 5 million yen into it, then the company would lease an apartment and rent it out on Airbnb.

Rent would cost ¥60,000–120,000/month, they would list it on Airbnb for ¥20,000/night, then assuming 50% occupancy the return is ~¥200,000/month.

It was very profitable. The payback period for the ÂĄ5 million was 1.5 - 2 years.

decimalenough•2 days ago
Also, the capital stays with the company! Wind down the company and (if it was profitable) you get your capital back.
Reubachi•2 days ago
The visa requires licensing/registrations and token investments, all aside from the cost of purchasing a home in Osaka.
cucumber3732842•2 days ago
>all aside from the cost of purchasing a home in Osaka

Which they were almost certainly divvying up. A bunch of people invest $32k each. Some management company buys the home, pays them all a cut of airBNB proceeds, etc. You don't "do" anything beyond put up $32k for your $31k piece of paper.

whizzter•2 days ago
Iirc there's a scrap-n-build culture in Japan, houses are not really valued compared to land (due earthquake, quality, culture,etc).
hirako2000•2 days ago
And how are they not managerial, entrepreneur, doing business ?

Is there something illegitimate in doing an activity that yield profit when the national is Chinese ? Or when it's a short term let ? Or when it is something that doesn't directly contributed to innovation benefiting the nation ?

bombcar•2 days ago
It’s the difference between setting up a system to encourage investment and hoping for a factory, or at least a large department store, and instead getting a DataCenter that employs 30 people total.
embedding-shape•2 days ago
I don't think it's "illegitimate" as such, just parasitic behaviour the world probably needs less of. They buy up real estate, then rent it out, living in another country, basically just extracting wealth, and while it's legal, it's still lazy and kind of despicable behaviour from a "we're all humans on this planet" perspective. From the perspective of Japanese people, you see foreigners coming to where you live and strictly making things worse, not better.

But of course if we limit our perspective to an economic one, then it seems like a wise and sound approach to "escaping the hamster wheel" for the average Chinese person, easy money right? I think people in Japan probably don't have that perspective though, but instead look at the tail-effects of allowing that sort of behavior. That's why they changed the rules probably.

shevy-java•2 days ago
It's not just business related though - Japan has gotten more hostile to foreigners. And no, it is not restricted only to chinese foreigners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAmKqTWjxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLOsYTfl7k

(These two videos are quite recent at the time of writing this here.)

Don't get fooled by the deliberate (but misleading) title(s). This is a narration of more and more restrictions coming. So the article here also taps into this 1:1.

In some ways it reminds me of Nigel Farage in the UK, though in Japan it is not quite as tied to an individual person.

Shank•2 days ago
> In one case, investigators in Kanagawa Prefecture found that a Sri Lankan national had set up roughly 600 shell companies. He also allegedly submitted business manager visa applications for at least six Sri Lankan nationals by listing them as company presidents on paper, even though they actually worked manual labor jobs.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the government has a problem with this practice. The problem is trying to create a system of requirements that is both feasible to put on paper and also testable. When the issue was raised, the income requirements were changed as an immediate reaction, but the ISA has broad authority to grant or deny based on many circumstances.

Put differently, acts like this were already illegal, but difficult for the ISA to catch. So they changed the base requirements which are theoretically much easier to catch than the actual illegal behavior.

RaSoJo•2 days ago
He also allegedly submitted business manager visa applications for at least six Sri Lankan nationals by listing them as company presidents on paper, even though they actually worked manual labor jobs.

From Asterix & Cleopatra (1965): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSL0D_ZUAAAvbeM.jpg

Relevant as ever.

alexpotato•2 days ago
Loved Asterix as a kid and now realizing I should go back and re-read them to get the more adult themed jokes.
mmooss•2 days ago
> The problem is trying to create a system of requirements that is both feasible to put on paper and also testable.

... and fair, just, and respects freedom and other rights. Telling people one thing in 2015, giving them a decade to build a life in Japan, and then a decade later telling them they have to leave violates many of those things.

Obviously the political subtext is contempt for fairness, justice, and human rights. It's not hard to see how destroying the foundations of freedom and prosperity will turn out; you can see it already in the impact on many people who are immigrants and others outside a certain power structure (conservative, racially dominant, wealthy) in many countries. Removing human rights is license to act with contempt for others.

> In one case

One case doesn't indicate a problem. I don't believe it's dependent on any problem: Is it coincidence that xenophobia is suddenly popular in all these countries around the world, simultaneously?

cedws•2 days ago
As a Brit living in Japan (non-resident) I think they should protect themselves at all costs, lest what happened to my country happen to theirs. If the business visa was abused, that abuse should be stopped, not just allowed to happen like we would do.
klausa•2 days ago
I'm sorry, you're simultaneously (somehow?) living here as a non-resident, and complaining about people _abusing the system_?

That's pretty rich, gotta say!

rayiner•2 days ago
Your point doesn't follow logically. If you're a non-resident living in Japan according to Japanese peoples' expectations, why can't you criticize other non-residents who aren't living in a way that's consistent with Japanese peoples' expectations?
klausa•2 days ago
Because someone who's not a resident in Japan, and claims to be living here, is fundamentally either also abusing the system, or not actually living here.
bilbo0s•2 days ago
In fairness, there are a lot of Japanese people who feel they were not consulted on the scale and scope of "Japanese peoples' expectations". So many such people that they could get a Prime Minister elected. I wouldn't assume that living according to the laws that exist currently means that you're living in accordance with "Japanese peoples' expectations". That's the whole reason the laws are being changed at the moment.

That said, as a foreigner right now the best thing to do is to watch the legal environment as it shifts so that you don't fall afoul of it. And to be extra mindful of adhering to Japanese customs, which boils down to being nice along with things like realizing some places may not look on your tattoos the same way those tattoos are looked on in the West.

cedws•2 days ago
It’s not rich to recognise your own ship is sinking and want others to save themselves from sinking theirs. I truly love Japan and the last thing I want is the same cultural dilution to happen here. Deport me if that’s what it takes. Japan must invest in itself and not give in to the temptation of unlimited cheap foreign labor.
dennis_jeeves2•2 days ago
>That's pretty rich, gotta say!

He still can think objectively, that's what it means.

ekjhgkejhgk•2 days ago
I think they're the kind of people who would argue that the "immigrants" should be kept out, but "expats" are ok.
cedws•2 days ago
Yes, a country should want to keep out people with negative fiscal impact and bring in people with a positive fiscal impact. Isn’t that obvious?

By all means bring in people to run businesses in Japan. Legitimate businesses, not visa mills. This increase in capital requirements stamps out the visa mills.

timr•2 days ago
What’s rich about it? You can live in Japan as a non-resident and still be following 100% of the rules.

I agree with the GP. It’s their country. They set the rules. If they want to change the rules because those rules aren’t working for them, that’s their prerogative. As a USian, I’m actually sort of jealous that they have the ability to make changes so quickly.

klausa•2 days ago
>You can live in Japan as a non-resident and still be following 100% of the rules.

Not for any reasonable definition of "live in", you can't.

akg_67•2 days ago
Double standards. He is an immigrant in Japan but he doesn’t want immigrants both in his host (Japan) and home (UK) countries. Pretty ironic come to think of. I guess he thinks his type are “good” immigrants, others are not so much.
LightBug1•2 days ago
I just would like to say a respectful and courteous "thank you" to Japan.

Thank you taking this "ex-pat" off our hands.

Cheers.

croes•2 days ago
First

> at all costs

That’s with nearly 100% certainty always wrong at leads to disaster

Second

I doubt the new requirements will hinder shell companies that much. The honest people on the other hand will be screwed.

ElProlactin•2 days ago
Many countries are tightening the immigration screws. For example, Thailand just reduced visa exempt stays for most countries from 60 to 30 days and have been going hard after illegal foreign businesses set up under Thai nominees.

While there are usually political and economic factors that contribute to these decisions, I've been living overseas for almost two decades and have noticed that rampant abuse is now almost everywhere you look in any country that is interesting to foreigners. A few years ago, I was sitting at busy bar near the beach in Bali and a couple of guys were loudly discussing a scheme they used to get KITAS investor visas without actually putting up the required capital.

This is just the beginning of this type of thing methinks.

eloisant•2 days ago
That's pretty crazy when you see that in developed countries, Japan in particular, population is aging and declining.

Countries should be competing for the best immigrants, not closing their doors.

ElProlactin•2 days ago
The problem is that identifying who the "best" immigrants are for your country can be very difficult when thousands upon thousands of people are trying to game the system.

Japan is a very attractive destination for a variety of reasons (highly-developed, safe, relatively "cheap", etc.) so you have lots of people who are willing to jump through some hoops and put up some capital for a chance to live there.

I wouldn't say that the changes to the business manager visa are going to help Japan attract the "best" immigrants. They will definitely hurt some good people who are contributing to Japan. But on the whole they will probably be reasonably effective in weeding out most of the abusers. Not all, but most.

It's a sledgehammer approach because a scalpel is very difficult to use when so many people want to live in your country.

Scoundreller•2 days ago
And as you put up more roadblocks, the more you select for desperation. Your best prospects have lots of options and can take a path of lower resistance.

Just as in sports, if you’re trying to draft a top kicker/thrower/catcher/goalie/whatever, they’re going to avoid onerous terms and outsized effort.

boelboel•2 days ago
Do people starting an 'airbnb' business help with the aging problem? Same thing with some of the other immigrants. They're not really creating economical value as much as they're competing with natives taking the 'easy part'.
Levitz•2 days ago
Countries are not concerned about a lack of willing immigrants, and so they close their doors so the ones they want are the ones that get in.
aurareturn•2 days ago

  Countries should be competing for the best immigrants, not closing their doors.
Don't mistake what the elites want with what working class people want. Elites want a higher population - even if they're immigrants - so the market grows bigger for their businesses. But immigrants come with many problems for the working class people.

The elites aren't going to have a house next to immigrants. They don't feel the effects in their castle.

Anyways, this change is to target only the best immigrants. There are still ways for them to immigrate to Japan. This change just closes the loophole for lower quality immigrants.

mmooss•2 days ago
> a house next to immigrants

This assumes there is something wrong with immigrants. I've lived next to many immigrants. Almost everyone in the US is an immigrant or decended from them.

The problem is the hateful - they destroy the society and neighborhood.

> lower quality

Humans are not lower or higher quality - except arguably those acting on hate, who damage the social contract of liberty.

mytailorisrich•2 days ago
This has to be balanced with preserving culture and social homogeneity. A country is not just an economic entity and individuals are not just producers and consumers...

Population has also exploded in never seen before proportions everywhere on Earth (Japan had a population of only 45 million in 1900...) and it is probably a blessing in disguise if it reduces.

kmeisthax•2 days ago
"Social homogeneity" is how you get suburban shitholes in Utah where the police trip over themselves to defend a LEGO pawn shop owner from being served papers. People blamed the "Mormon Mafia[0]" for that, but the real problem is just that social homogeneity sucks, especially if you're on the receiving end of it.

As for population decline, I will give you that all the people who are currently very loud-mouthed about it are also far-right grifters who think The Handmaid's Tale is an instruction manual and want to turn America back into a shithole slave-breeding colony. The underlying concern is basically "I won't have enough cheaply-hired peons if people don't breed like rats". But, notably, all those people are also anti-immigration and basically want every country to be a closed off ethnostate breeding compound.

Anyway, migration is a human right.

What do we mean when we call something a "human right"? Well, usually, it's to mark some activity as sacred and untouchable. Like, when we say free speech is a human right, we're saying that speech is untouchable by law. But there's a deeper understanding embedded in this: humanity has been doing this activity freely since before we could remember, therefore anyone trying to restrict it deserves scrutiny.

For speech, we have documented evidence of people treating speech as a human right for hundreds, if not thousands of years. But the history of human migration goes back orders of magnitude further. A constant of human civilization is that when people don't like what is happening, they leave. Humanity's motto is "If it sucks, hit the bricks"!

So personally, I don't see this as a case of "people are abusing poor Japan's visa programs", but a case of "you built a dumb system of selling visas for money and were surprised that people figured out how to cough up the cash". Of course that was going to happen. People are going to bend over backwards to comply with your visa requirements no matter how stupid the visas are, because, again, migration is a human right.

Hell, I doubt Elon Musk is going to argue he should be sent back to South Africa. The rich racists don't even think the racism should equally apply to them.

But sure, yes, "cultural preservation" is important. Let us not ask too closely what that culture is, or if it's worth preserving[1]. Or even if it is being preserved. Because in the specific case of Japan, the population decline is primarily happening in remote rural towns. That culture is dying, today, because they are running out of people. Would having foreigners move in change that culture? Sure. But culture changes all the time! Trying to preserve a culture by sealing it off from foreigners is like trying to preserve a river by sealing off the water flowing through it!

[0] American Fork is something like 90% LDS members. If you go a little more north to anywhere in Salt Lake County, it's more like 50%. And my personal experience as a church member is that American Fork members do not recognize anyone from out-of-town as a member, even if they are.

[1] Likewise, the Japanese countryside has its own small town dynamics that are equally as shitty as American Fork, Utah. Go look up the story of Rin Japanese Country Life if you're curious.

kakacik•2 days ago
Yeah, but folks doing scams to get visas are hardly the "best immigrants", rather amoral scum that is largely incompatible with mentality and moral values of host country. Clearly not the type of immigration they desperately want, can't blame them
jiaosdjf•2 days ago
There is no "competing for the best immigrants".

Anyone who is at the top of the ladder (educated, wealthy) will move wherever is most desirable, and thats pretty much only the US. You can't fake it with incentives, America doesn't have to offer immigrants anything it simply exists as the global centre for tech, finance, medical etc. - nobody is lining up to move to China, India or Germany.

Anyone who is at the bottom of the ladder is, as Bernie Sanders put it, a pawn in the Koch brothers conspiracy to reduce wages. These countries don't care about quality they just want to jack up housing demand and bottom out wages because thats great for the asset class and big business (until they automate and ditch all these people)

The immigration narrative is BS. The idea that we're aging out so must desperately bring in more UberEats riders is nuts. Nobody in my country can afford to be a nurse - I know an eye doctor at a major London clinic who is leaving this country because after 20 years working for the NHS she simply is not paid enough to live.

We're absolutely obsessed with immigration and all we are doing is lining the pockets of corporates, brain-draining countries that desperately need skilled people and blurring the lines of social responsibility in a globalist economy.

defrost•2 days ago
> I know an eye doctor at a major London clinic who is leaving this country ..

To go to the USofA or to, say, Australia?

ffaccount2•2 days ago
>will move wherever is most desirable, and thats pretty much only the US.

What? Do you seriously think that wealthy people only want to move to the US? It's a wild claim, especially considering we're in a comment section of a post about immigration to Japan.

bluealienpie•2 days ago
Fundamentally the issue is that visa requirements are restrictive creating concentrated demand for labor. There are countries with higher paying jobs that can done online, but every position doesn't just shift overseas. We put the onus on the individual to stop illegal activity, but it’s the business owners that hire and sustain this kind of employment. A high minimum wage would negate the need and desire for irregular migration. It would also provide good paying jobs for migrants who could afford to live in the country.
aurareturn•2 days ago
For Southeast Asia specifically, they've been battered by low quality, trashy tourists - more so after Covid. Locals are respectful but many tourists are entitled in SEA. You see plenty of videos on social media of tourists starting fights with locals, being disruptive in public areas, and generally doing something illegal.

Recent example in Vietnam: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DY_-NcwDTaJ/

A lot of trashy tourists are moving from Bali over to Vietnam. I few sorry for the locals. Yes, they'll make a few extra bucks a week from more tourists but at the cost of seeing your society get destroyed slowly.

Dear Vietnam, please do not try to become the next Thailand and Bali for tourism. Do not welcome sex tourists, criminals, crypto bros, begpackers. Don't sell your soul for a few extra dollars.

Semaphor•2 days ago
Thought the name seems familiar: Jake Adelstein got his 2009 memoir Tokyo Vice turned into a (fun to watch, apparently very dramatized, though that was already criticized for the memoirs) 2 season HBO series in 2022.
trashcan2137•2 days ago
The newspaper he apparently worked in stated that he was never part of the reporting teams for organized crime and had written only a very few articles about the yakuza during his time there.

He got called out several times about his stories so I wouldn't be surprised if he's making stuff up again.

Semaphor•2 days ago
> He got called out several times

Good point, WP [0] has some details, looks like pretty credible call outs.

I did read about that when I watched the show, but proceeded to forget because I didn’t actually care that much ;)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Adelstein#Career

rwmj•2 days ago
The book is far more interesting than the drama. In fact I'd go so far to say that the drama has really nothing much to do with the book besides the title and some superficial characters.
kachilu-ai•about 16 hours ago
I live in Japan, and this tracks with what I’ve seen over the past few years. There has been a noticeable increase in Chinese-run Airbnbs, especially in tourist areas.

I’ve also heard of quite a few problems with some of these properties, such as operators not meeting licensing requirements or causing issues with nearby residents.

Japan also has a relatively generous social security system, especially national health insurance, which makes medical costs extremely low compared with many other countries. So I can see why this kind of route would keep attracting people from overseas.

gslepak•2 days ago
I applaud the Japanese for being capable of recognizing that many parts of their culture are unique and worth preserving. That what makes Japan Japan is not just the land and the name, but the people and their culture.
tecleandor•1 day ago
How asking for more money is protecting anything?
gslepak•1 day ago
They are not just asking for more money, from TFA they are imposting additional requirements like better Japanese fluency etc. In general they are raising the bar for who is allowed to live there, and all of that protects Japan.
tumult•1 day ago
No, that's not required for this visa. The capital requirement is the major change. Also, foreign restaurant owners are already fluent in Japanese, because they deal with Japanese customers every day. The language requirement change is for other visa types.

The rich people abusing this visa as second home have no trouble depositing a bit more money to meet the requirement. It only affects legitimate businesses that can't raise and float that kind of cash. It's performative punishment to appease the growing far-right sentiment. If they wanted to verify businesses were real, they can go there and foot and inspect. (They already have the right to do this, and all businesses that qualify for this visa must have a public office or commercial space with a clearly listed sign that can be accessed easily.)

Also, they enacted the change and applied it retroactively to existing visa holders who were waiting to have their visa updated. So people are now being rejected on new rules that were announced and enacted after they had filed to update their visa (which you must do every 1-3 years.)

Japan is not a theme park for foreign tourists to gawk at. It's a real place where people live and work.

tumult•1 day ago
So sad to see the comments here from people who don't know any better cheering this on. They don't know what is actually happening. The rules change was applied retroactively to people who already had renewals filed (which you have to do frequently) but not yet approved, and are being rejected based on the rules change that was announced after having already filed. The new rules are being used as a way to visibly punish the (already very small, 3%) immigrant population in Japan to appease the growing number of people with far-right anti-immigration sentiment.

There is a Japanese-led movement attempting to raise awareness of this issue, at least as far as it affects ethnic restaurants, which I suppose is the most visible effect of it to regular Japanese people: https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20260529/p2a/00m/0na/00... As they point out, the stated goal of this policy change was to clamp down on rich people from other countries buying a "second home" with a visa in Japan. But the policy change to increase the capital requirement does not stop this. It only affects legitimate business. Because the rich people just deposit more money and meet the requirement. As the people in the link above point out, if the government was actually serious about this, they could instead verify the businesses are real by going there.

The people running small businesses, especially restaurants, cannot raise that kind of cash very quickly. And floating that amount of money in cash is just a bad idea.

More: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16536637 More: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16615301 Example: https://www.ndtv.com/feature/japan-deportation-threat-leaves...

The people here cheering this on, saying "Japan should throw out more foreigners to preserve Japan" need to realize that Japan is not a theme park. It's a real place that people live and work. And this policy change doesn't even do what it claims to do.

tecleandor•2 days ago
> The police suspect around 1,000 people may be working in Japan illegally through these types of schemes.

In a country with a population of 123 million, that's a non issue just for pleasing far right Nippon Kaigi friendly voters.

eunos•2 days ago
> Nippon Kaigi friendly voters

*Sanseito.

Nippon Kaigi friendly are mostly trad big corps. These days the anxiety came from everyday folks that are starting to consider Sanseito vs good ol' LDPJ.

While not 100% the same, I do think that the last LDPJ huge victory reminds me of 2019 UK election, the last big hurrah for Conservative, before Reform starts seeping in.

tecleandor•2 days ago
Yeah well, I said Nippon Kaigi because the PM and a good bunch of the people around them are Nippon Kaigi, but yeah, Sanseito is having fun too.
rayiner•2 days ago
> Foreign business owners could lose their residency status after the government increased the capital requirement from 5 million yen (approx. $31,000) to 30 million yen (approx. $187,000).1

A $31,000 capital requirement for a "business" is a joke. A food cart--not a truck, just a cart--requires more capital than that.

DrProtic•1 day ago
Agreed, 31k is a joke, never heard of such a low number for this type of thing ever. I’m surprised it was that low.

Even 187k is very low compared to Europe, I’m pretty sure all European countries have it higher than that.

jonathanstrange•2 days ago
A dying country that doesn't want small business to continue, that's not something I had in my 2026 bingo card collection. Be that as it may, I would just close down the business and incorporate elsewhere. Let them sort out their population crisis on their own, I'm sure children will magically pop out of nowhere.
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shevy-java•2 days ago
I was surprised when I first heard of that. I actually noticed this on Paolo from Tokyo's youtube channel first. The vibe was strange, because Paolo seemed happy about stricter controls. I was baffled about that, since it ran counter to the rest of Paolo's channel (which is actually best with regards to the series "A day in the life of a japanese xyz"; this is actually insightful and even historically important). So Japan sending the message "gaijin leave now" kind of would make me reconsider where to go - aka not Japan. If it is in Asia, well, there may now be friendlier countries. And the technological gap isn't that huge anymore; South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan - these are almost equal to Japan. Even some parts in mainland China (but who wants to live in sinomarxistic-capitalism - that's such a weird psycho combination). Even Thailand, while it is not on the same standard as the other countries, may seem friendlier now than Japan with his anti-foreigner's policies. It seems their true mindset has never really changed. That may also explain why the english language is still regarded as a hostile entity to many; contrast this to Singapore please.
modo_mario•2 days ago
Singapore is not a nation, singaporean not an ethnicity and even Lee Kuan Yew had serious doubts about what people they could integrate. They also don't allow this kind of 'get in on a business visa by pricing out locals with some airbnb's bullshit'.
DiscourseFan•2 days ago
It will become increasingly difficult to police international borders. On the other hand, commercial space travel will create new states that can police there borders. The borders don’t disappear but they will change
fred_is_fred•2 days ago
Commercial space travel to where? Where will these new borders be?