The history of butterfly swimming

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dan_sbl•about 1 hour ago

> unveiling it to the confusion of officials and competitors in a 150 yard medley race in 1933

The article doesn't say, but did the medley relay/IM become a 4 stroke event around the same time in 1952 when FINA recognized it as a new stroke? Funny to see a 150 yard event mentioned since it seems like such an odd distance nowadays.

dfee•about 2 hours ago

butterfly is interesting because it's faster than breaststroke (mentioned) but slower than freestyle. it also consumes far more energy than any other stroke.

to that end, i'm not sure why it exists, except that it's truly a unique style.

* i also still hold my high school's butterfly record, 20 years on.

slwvx•about 1 hour ago

> to that end, i'm not sure why it exists, except that it's truly a unique style.

Many people swim as a form of exercise. Fly is exercising different muscles and allows me to get my heart rate up higher than freestyle

Fly is useful to train for other strokes

Perhaps more importantly, I think that having a different stroke to do makes swimming more interesting. Whether doing sets as part of a swim team or on your own, it's more interesting when you can vary things. The more swimming is interesting, the easier it is to enjoy and keep doing it

sleepydog•about 1 hour ago

The modern Olympics is at least as much for entertainment as it is for measuring human ability, and the butterfly is simply an awe-inspiring technique. The line of swimmers repeatedly shooting out of the water like flying fish is mesmerizing. Who cares if they're not going as fast as freestyle?

ge96•13 minutes ago

Funny I hated swimming but I was good at it, also did butterfly and freestyle. Everyone had to do the 500 at least once, that was brutal.

forinti•about 1 hour ago

I think the objective is to show how strong you are. If you wanna go fast, use freestyle, if you want to conserve energy, use breaststroke or backstroke. I don't see a reason to use the butterfly outside of a butterfly competition.

Contax•about 1 hour ago

In my case the reason is to exercise. I really like it as an exercise. Though I also practice the other strokes for more variety, and fun, when I'm short of time butterfly is my choice.

Bratmon•about 2 hours ago

I never quite understood why there are Olympic medals for Butterfly swimming, but not things like "100m hop-on-one-foot sprint"

Like, why is being good at a deliberately-inefficent form of movement worth a medal in only this one case?

polyrand•10 minutes ago

I believe that's like saying we should only have a single "throw" event in athletics. Or why having hurdles events when you already have regular running ones.

I like that we can have more variety, more people competing, and overall different modalities to test human performance.

DennisP•about 1 hour ago

That's a funny take and I'm tempted to agree, since butterfly was the bane of my existence as a skinny swimmer in high school. But hopping on one foot was never a rule hack that gave you an advantage in some preexisting event. Butterfly was, and rather than banning it they made it a new event. Plus it looks cool, if you're a lot better at it than I was.

ggreer•about 1 hour ago

This quirk of competition is why swimmers can win a ridiculous number of medals. If swimming only had freestyle, Michael Phelps would have 7 gold medals instead of 23.

Angostura•about 1 hour ago

You’re familiar with the walking competition?

forinti•about 1 hour ago

The first modern Olympics did have sack races. That would be entertaining.

gosub100•about 1 hour ago

There are much bigger problems with the Olympics than that. Such as selling the rights and advertising for billions while paying the athletes nothing.

skinfaxi•about 2 hours ago

Deliberately-inefficient compared to what? TFA leads with:

> Swimmers and coaches began to realise that breaststroke was quicker when a swimmer recovered their arms forward above the water and the arm technique – as well as the swimming term ‘butterfly’ – was born.

marttt•about 1 hour ago

This whole story somehow reminds me of the Fosbury flop technique in high jump -- amazingly, Dick Fosbury started to develop it at the age of 16: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Fosbury#High_school_and_t...

From the Wikipedia article on Fosbury:

"The technique gained the name the "Fosbury Flop" when in 1964 the Medford Mail-Tribune ran a photo captioned "Fosbury Flops Over Bar," while in an accompanying article a reporter wrote that he looked like "a fish flopping in a boat." Others were even less kind, with one newspaper captioning Fosbury's photograph, "World's Laziest High Jumper""

Bratmon•about 2 hours ago

I noticed the article pointedly didn't compare the stroke to the forward crawl, which is clearly both faster and more efficient.

There's no real way to compare the butterfly and the forward crawl that doesn't make the butterfly look like a ridiculous farce.

john_strinlai•about 2 hours ago

the butterfly stroke is the most energy-inefficient stroke, i believe, despite being quicker.

tokai•about 2 hours ago

>deliberately-inefficent

If that's how we judge things, there should only be races on bicycles.

ggreer•about 2 hours ago

Allowing a bicycle would be like if swimming competitions allowed fins. A more accurate mapping to the swimming strokes would be race walking, which is widely ridiculed.

jolt42•about 1 hour ago

Agreed. Wasn't track barefoot back in the day? I mean even shoes are an advantage. Swimming sped up after goggles and swimcaps were accepted. I think it's all just where do you decide to draw the line? I've thought badminton is an odd sport, the shuttlecock is so slow anyone can (normally) play it - it's very inefficient. And don't get me started on equestrian if grandpa can win it then shouldn't the horse get the medal?

polyrand•about 1 hour ago

Finswimming is actually a separate sport, just not an olympic sport. Although it has some exciting characteristics like very fast 50 meter races, which I enjoy as a "regular" (non-fins) swimmer.

tokai•about 2 hours ago

No, if efficiency can be used to evaluate if a sport is legit, only cycling should be allowed. No running or swimming. The point is that efficiency is an asinine ground to judge a sport on.

AtlasBarfed•about 2 hours ago

Butterfly is the "three point shot" of swimming. If you can do a pool length of butterfly you are a "real" swimmer, kind of like a non-prayer three point shot implies you actually played basketball.