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iammjm•2 minutes ago
> It prevents the mass whorification of women. Yet human nature and market forces will always ensure that whores exist.

I’d be more careful using the word “whore”, especially as a dude. To me it kinda feels like the “n-word” equivalent but for women. Purely hurtful and meant to denigrate. Even more so in this context. Like there is not even a similarly hateful term I know for a highly sexual or “slutty” male. Hypersexual behaviour is something the society seems to have a problem only when it’s women. Why contribute to this clearly exist sentiment? Let people live and have fun and even make money off of it if they are not hurting anybody

ElProlactin•about 1 hour ago
> I built one of China’s first multi-channel networks in 2014 with Thoughtful Media Group. We grew channels on China’s YouTube-equivalent platforms. I eventually struck gold with a video called “The Beauties of ChinaJoy 2014” (CJ2014: 最性感的视频), which went viral on a video platform called Youku in July of that year.

The irony of a company called "Thoughtful Media Group" making its mark on the world with...a 4 minute YouTube video of scantily-clad models at a gaming expo.

N_Lens•about 2 hours ago
Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing. I don’t know where either road (America’s approach vs China’s) will lead. I do think suppressing desires in a society is likely to lead unhealthy outcomes, but perhaps there’s a balance.
ahartmetz•27 minutes ago
Most countries are "suppressing the desires" for certain drugs and gambling, some even for sugary softdrinks. These don't necessarily lead to unhealthy outcomes. The easiest cases are where people simply do less of the bad thing without turning to crime, like with softdrinks. Engagement-bait minidramas seem to be such a case.
jdw64•about 2 hours ago
In China, there are first tier cities and second tier cities, and there is also the issue of migrant workers . The reason college students are so strongly opposed to the 'return to the countryside' movement is that they know once you go down, there is no way back up. And joining the Communist Party, and inheriting about half of the party's positions, is part of that reality. In that sense, it's not that women have a fantasy about marrying up, but rather that they are making a survival driven choice. Even within our East Asian cultural sphere, there has been a strong preference for sons due to the agricultural way of life. As a result, selective abortion has led to a significant shortage of women.

There is criticism that my country's K dramas encourage marrying up, but I don't think women's choices in the subtly stratified hierarchy of East Asian society are wrong. It's not a war; I see it as women simply surviving

beardyw•about 1 hour ago
I think immigrants (oh, sorry, expats) in the USA would get a fairly obvious rebuke if they complained about living or doing business there.
ralph84•13 minutes ago
Good thing the author didn't complain about living or doing business in China.
yanhangyhy•about 2 hours ago
> An American Expat Describes the CCP’s Crackdown on Microdramas

American Expat == it's not neutral

fellowniusmonk•34 minutes ago
Whoever wrote this, I find them incredibly unsympathetic.

Some people have the desire to gamble their lives away, to take on extreme amounts of debt and then die in despair.

Same goes for alcoholism.

Same goes for ponzi schemes.

We don't ban alcohol because bans of it drive organized crime.

On media consumption apps the west blocks children from seeing porn, adults from seeing snuff films, adults from seeing how to make a bomb.

I don't think I believe anyone who claims to stand on these things on principle unless they are also pro right to repair and pro open source. I won't believe you are advocating for freedom if you only ever argue for exploitative extraction of resources via preying on human frailty.

And personally I think we should ban skinners box algorithms from being the default on any app.

We explicitly make apps to be as lazy as possible to use by people and low IQ people or obsessive people with poor impulse control and to extract as much of their money and attention as possible, and behind closed door and in full view tech is very explicit about this.

Separately, some people are destructive idiot or do idiot things, they do actual damage to our society and make everyone have less resources, breaking windows, burning money, living in "maladaptive fantasy", etc.

These types of very simple arguments about human nature and freedom as a virtue coming from someone openly bragging about running exploits against human nature seems like a wolf bemoaning the sheep dog.