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sandcat_•about 2 hours ago
I find the reduction in smoking cigarettes fascinating at a societal level, in a similar way to a few other topics: toxoplasma gondii, widespread use of SSRIs. Probably some others I'm not recalling.

This must have had an effect, beyond health. Surely? It's hard to research because it gets crowded out (understandably) by all the negatives from smoking and all the improvements to health from the reduction of it.

But nicotine does have an effect on the mind. Certainly some positives (concentration, I believe) and I'm sure some negatives too. So the idea that a society would, over the course of a few decades, quite sharply reduce it's use of a particular drug surely must have had some interesting knock-on effects.

I've heard some people wonder if the rise of ADHD diagnoses could be related. That in the past all the ADHD folks would smoke and self-medicate, without even realizing. I have no idea if that's true.

Swizec•about 2 hours ago
> This must have had an effect, beyond health. Surely?

Watch old music videos and TV or movies, everyone looks so old! You’ll have 30 year olds running around looking 50.

Then you look at modern media and think “Wow look at that 30 year old baby” and the person is pushing 50. Everyone looks so young these days! Cigarettes age your skin super fast.

shon•about 3 hours ago
When I was a 20-something big-4 consultant traveling weeks on end for work, I took up smoking for exactly the reasons you suggest. I had nothing to do in my down time and knew nobody, but I could sit in hotel bar with a smoke and strangers would trail over.

Yep, I’m old enough to have been working when you could still smoke in hotel bars. In Monaco you could order a pack of Marlboro Reds at your dinner table back in 2006.

Gualdrapo•about 2 hours ago
Some +20 years ago one day at a local radio show there was the daily topic about how people went into smoking. One guy called and told that he had to go everyday early to his classes at uni and before going in there was a kind of convenience store where people piled up and asked for a hot coffee and a cigarette.

But the thing is that, according to him, it was a lot. Lots of people went in and asked for the same thing, a cup of coffee and a cigarette.

Allegedly he went into smoking because he got so used to hear people saying "one cup of coffee and a cigarette, please" for so long that one day he, unconsciously, asked for the same.

koolba•about 2 hours ago
Some of us are old enough to remember smoking sections on planes. (And yes it works out exactly as bad as you’d expect it … great way to past time on a transatlantic flight though!)
trevithick•about 3 hours ago
A different time. I remember the first question from the host at a restaurant being "smoking or non?"
Waterluvian•about 3 hours ago
Despite having never smoked a single cigarette in my life, I have an intensely strong reaction to a very specific brand. Early in high school I met my first crush, and one summer learned that she liked me back. She was my first everything. And the scent of a lot of that teenage exploration was the awful but sweet smell of her parents’ basement, stained with that brand of cigarette.

I have no clue what brand it is. But if I ever smell it in public I am teleported back there and find myself aching terribly with youthful nostalgia.

zabzonk•about 2 hours ago
> I have no clue what brand it is

You must have clue! If there is one thing tobacco companies are brilliant at it is branding. Why else would I have smoked Marlboro (and I am English) for all those sad, sad years.

Waterluvian•about 2 hours ago
I’m sure I could just ask someone the next time I detect it. To be honest, I’m afraid to. I don’t want the power to portal myself there on demand.
garciansmith•about 3 hours ago
My grad school supervisor (requiescat in pace) lamented the decline for a similar, very minor reason: he always thought that getting up, going outside, smoking a cigarette, and coming back in was the perfect amount of time for a class break. Ten minutes was too long, five too short.
OptionOfT•about 3 hours ago
My mom (who smoked, and quit) explained to me that when she was growing up, the teachers would still smoke in class! That was in the 1959..=1964 timeframe.
GenerWork•about 3 hours ago
This reminds me of the "It looks just as stupid when you do it" anti-smoking poster[0], which was meant to dissuade smoking, but actually goes kind of hard.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1suta15/...

gobdovan•about 2 hours ago
I'd like to imagine that the creator heard the 'Einstein zebra puzzle' (the puzzle about different nationalities having different pets and smoking different brands of cigarettes) and just made the pets have different nationalities and smoking the cigarettes directly.
Gigachad•about 2 hours ago
Australian anti smoking ads were a lot more effective. Showing graphic images and video of diseased foot or someone struggling to talk, coughing up blood.

Was working incredibly well up until vapes came along and every school kid had one.

thrixton•about 1 hour ago
Do you think they were really effective or was it more the large price hikes (which have now been undone by vapes and black market cigarettes)?

I guess it might have had an impact but it's hard to tell for me with the impressive mishandling of vapes and now the black market.

Gigachad•about 1 hour ago
I mean it's hard to know the exact split, but obviously the combination of the negative advertising and price hikes killed smoking. It went from something that everyone did to only something addicts and homeless people do. Even with black market cigarettes now, kids still haven't taken up smoking.

While vaping has exploded, and while it isn't harmless, it's clearly safer than smoking so the current situation is still better.

trevithick•about 3 hours ago
Cider9986•about 2 hours ago
This one is just funny, but kind of works as anti-smoking just by looking at the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzxmg3YCOqQ

Paste link and download to bypass age restriction/account: https://app.ytdown.to/en35/

sorum•about 2 hours ago
You're underselling this poster. It goes hard AF.

Racking my brain if there's another poster that unintentionally goes as hard as this one.

chriscrisby•about 2 hours ago
I smoked for 20 years, loved every minute of it and looked cool as hell
zabzonk•about 2 hours ago
I did about the same, until my GF said "it's them or me". Haven't touched one in over 30 years, thank god.

To anyone out there that does smoke - stop. You will improve your health, your finances, and you won't smell (well, no more than you would otherwise). And you probably don't look much like James Dean anyway.

trevithick•about 3 hours ago
Some sources suggest cigarette smoking is cool again. E.g., https://www.wsj.com/health/cigarettes-popularity-celebrity-s...
SugarReflex•about 2 hours ago
I vaped for a while and my take was that you felt worse in general with the ability to feel better on command for a little bit.

It may be the remnants of addiction speaking, but there was something about vaping that elevated certain scenarios. I loved standing at a tall place and watching the cloud dissipate into the scenery as my eye balls and body relaxed from the nicotine. Whether it was a cityscape or a high hill, it was just lovely and I remember it fondly.

The very last time I vaped, I was in the smoking lounge at the Singapore Changi airport. It was a rough room with harsh dystopian concrete benches. In the ill lit space, I sat down and took my last drags. As I inhaled, a middle aged Chinese business man in a suit sat down next to me and silently enjoyed his cigarettes. Then we went our own ways without saying anything. I thought it was a good last time.

Also, I'm sorry, but at least for me and a friend we found it hilariously easy to quit vaping. We simply just "stopped" and that was that. I found it much more painful to quit caffeine (which induced in me a fortnight of withdrawal symptoms, sore bones and fevers).

Gigachad•about 3 hours ago
Have to wonder what in todays world could replicate the social aspect of smoking. Something that gets people to step away from their work for a moment, keeps your hands busy and phone away and encourages people to talk to each other.
gobdovan•about 2 hours ago
I heard people with dogs claiming similar effects.
gwerbin•about 3 hours ago
Food trucks honestly
zzgo•about 2 hours ago
No way I'm hitting a food truck every two hours for a taco, it would be cheaper to be a pack a day smoker.
OptionOfT•about 3 hours ago
What I find interesting about cigarettes is that it created a whole new set of legislation requiring things to be non-flammable or at least flame-retarding.

The tobacco industry lobbied for this, because they didn't want to be held accountable for the deaths related to say a smoldering cigarette that lit a house on fire.

And those products themselves really weren't that healthy, as the flame-retardant added to say your couch would off-gas for a LONG time.

Now cigarettes (at least in the EU and in the USA) have 3 speed bumps in them, so they don't completely burn. They stop at each of these, and you need to suck more to overcome these bumps.

calvinmorrison•about 3 hours ago
i love smoking!
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singpolyma3•about 3 hours ago
Cigars can fuck off? Because we hate being classy or what?