Ask HN: Does anyone let AI agents play games just for fun?
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nnodivbyzero 4 days ago 29 comments
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We've seen AI agents write code/debug systems/browse the web and automate all kinds of work.
But does anyone let them play games - not for benchmarking or research - just for fun?
I'm thinking about things like LinkedIn games, Wordle, chess, puzzle games, etc.
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Like the World Cup.
Isn't it far more likely that the LLM has memorised the well known algorithms for solving a Rubik's Cube and has become intelligent enough to execute them? That seems like it'd be a lot easier than memorising millions of cube states. It doesn't even seem obvious that it could memorise next moves, it seems [0] there are more possible states of the cube than these models have parameters. It'd need to be a Large Rubik's Cube Model (LRCM? LRM?) rather than an LLM.
[0] https://cube.alen.is/
I’m no more surprised that an LLM can solve a Rubik’s cube than it can send an HTTP request.
I see this trope fairly often, i.e. the assumption that an LLM would need to have been trained on <exact thing it is being asked to solve>. Now, while I do have a moderate amount of background in AI, I am definitely not an expert on LLMs as such. I would be interested to hear someone's take, who does work actively in LLM research. Can they generalise "well enough"? They certainly seem to be able to do so, from my anecdata, and I don't believe "training explicitly for every possible scenario" would have scaled even to today's state.
> I know someone who tried the "aibot plays pokemon" thing... From what I saw, even if you frame advance every single frame, they still don't seem to grasp the concept of "I need to hold down this button for a few frames until x happens"...
> There's no concept of time, just a never ending state machine thats constantly changing state.
When I repeated the experiment with a MUD that I'd built by hand (A small American town) for the LLM's own limitations (Descriptions referenced things that I made sure existed, more common verbs existed for it to use on things, there was a map facility, and at least me to interact with on a second connection), I found the agent much more likely to take its time exploring, making up its own goals, and spending time traveling in the space just communicating with me in a roleplaying context.
It was an interesting time; I wasn't sure what I was expecting it to do after the first experiment, but it seemed to really jump into the second one and kept playing until I terminated the experiment.
If I were going to do it a third time, I'd probably create objects and give a modern agent fetch quests and other goals, and see how well it independently can handle that.
If we assume 250W for a continuously running agent, Grok 4 training run estimate would be around 50 million session-days, so a half-million people might consume as much running agents continuously for 100 days.
All of a sudden we are selectively squeamish with computer resource usage, when we were fine having all that fun with computers and hardware, 3 monitor setups, using graphic cards to play games (dear lord!) and tinkering around with home rigs of every proportion and wattage for no reason at all.
Eventually we could have live demos of policy interventions the same day as they're announced
Another idea I had was simulating an entire town with an LLM representing each person, which sounds somewhat similar.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=11sR4va6CXs
Side note: I think we will see an explosion of this type of games. I am naming this genre tamagochi-girlfriend, remember where you heard it first :)
Could be fun - will the AI model get stuck on the same things I did? How does it overcome obstacles? Will it try to break the game to power through?
It is entertaining, just in a different way.
https://sullla.com/civ4survivorindex.html
If you don't have an MCP server the AI agent might try to figure out how to talk to the game using the above ideas. But at this point you might as well ask it to help you write one.
The LLM's were terrible at poker.
I've also done a very truncated run of a visual novel before, and it was fascinating how "emotional" was. They did a very good job of portraying a human reacting to the story.
Conversely, they absolutely hated hidden rules in Mao.
Wordle would probably be a fun one. Definitely open to suggestions - I just got the harness in place and have been thinking about what to do next.