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fxj•about 16 hours ago
There is a free emulator here:

https://www.fullbucket.de/music/fb3300.html

The PS-3300 is a 3 layer synth with 49 voices where each voice has its own VCO/VCF/VCA. So you end up with 16 voices when you use 3 layers. It has microtunality and a reverb for each of the layers.

Here is a sound demo:

https://soundcloud.com/full-bucket/fr33ze?utm_source=clipboa...

wigster•about 16 hours ago
wow - that site has lots of emulators. very nice. thanks
hjkl0•about 18 hours ago
Very curious about the design, wish they’d show more photos and say more about it.

Where are all those cables stored? Is the keyboard supposed to fold into the main case somehow?

Reminds me a bit of the C100 “developer terminal”: https://caligra.com/c100/ (which I just noticed is now shipping)

steve1977•about 17 hours ago
Well it's remake of an old synthesizer, there's plenty of information and pictures about the original.
kristianp•about 15 hours ago
The remake isn't going to be exactly the same as the original. It is sensible to want more photos of the new units.
curioussam•about 17 hours ago
Oh dud, is it so hard to find out that is is an updated revision?
glimshe•about 17 hours ago
I'll wait for the Behringer clone!
Rochus•6 days ago
Nice, but I guess it's pretty expensive.
Lio•6 days ago
Likely around ÂŁ11,000 I heard.

That gives me the same feeling as a concert grand piano or installed pipe organ. I'll never get to own one or probably even touch one but I'm glad they exist for professional musicians to use.

Luckily cheap software and hardware synths can give us all a taste of what they're like.

This Korg seems more like something for museums or professional studios.

ssl-3•about 19 hours ago
> ÂŁ11,000

> That gives me the same feeling as a concert grand piano or installed pipe organ.

I think you might need to increase the number by an order of magnitude or more to get into the ballpark of [new] concert grand pianos and installed pipe organs.

juliusdavies•about 17 hours ago
A new Steinway spirio grand piano is around $650k usd
ButlerianJihad•about 18 hours ago
It must be understood that, unlike grand pianos, the building containing an installed pipe organ is integral to its operation and sound, so their costs, construction and maintenance are inextricably linked for the lifetime of the instrument.
wavemode•about 19 hours ago
ÂŁ11,000 is a lot of money, but in the context of instruments is pretty reasonable.
Cthulhu_•about 17 hours ago
Yeah, you can enter the market of (physical) synthesizers for around ÂŁ100, or for free via the myriad of online/digital ones.

Things like this aren't for making music (anymore), but for collecting.

Rochus•6 days ago
> but I'm glad they exist for professional musicians to use

The irony is that a professional musician in most cases has less budget to buy those expensive things than someone working e.g. as a teacher or clerc.

brudgers•5 days ago
Musicians who landed a successful sync licensing deal, have that kind of money. Likewise producers who got points on something that took off.

Anyway, $11,000 for a musical instrument is not that much for a musical instrument even when it is a lot of hamburgers for a given musician.

Lio•6 days ago
Very true especially in this day and age. I think by “professional” I mean someone already successful rather than an up and comer.
Mistletoe•about 19 hours ago
> If the hardware price tag (over $17,000) is out of reach, Cherry Audio offers an exacting virtual analog emulation for just $49.

:)

gnabgib•6 days ago
Title could really use the synth-model (as it is on the site).. how about: One of the rarest and most coveted synthesizers in history, PS-3300, is back (it's still click-baity.. but then it just be PS-3300 - A legend, reborn)
Lio•6 days ago
Good point. The full title was too long so I edited it down. Hopefully this is clearer.
alex_x•about 18 hours ago
Am I the only one who takes these “legends returns“ for a lack of innovation?

Noticed that for a while in triple A gaming. I get it, companies are playing safe, but I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again..

Edit: typo

ofalkaed•about 15 hours ago
I agree and even when they offer something new, they stick close to well established topologies generally just adding in more. I don't need 8 flavors of filter that I have to scroll through with a single button, just give me one or two good ones. Great that you are giving me four envelops but if they all trigger at the same time it is not that useful, provide some other way to trigger them or give us a trigger delay. Distortion after the filter? why? put it before so I can shape it, I can apply post filter distortion outside the box if I want it and there it can take advantage of the envelope's dynamics. But thanks for giving me a tincan reverb and a delay that can't be clocked by the LFOs or even synced.

There are so many simple things they could do to greatly increase what these synths are capable of, but they don't.

Oh, and give me a way to wipe the memory or at least a bank of empty patches so I don't have to delete a preset every single time or make an empty patch to save over the presets or make a file of empty patches on the computer that I can copy over through midi.

I could go on, 30 years of hitting my head against the same walls. I am almost at the point of building my own synth and a bela and a pi-zero would make it pretty easy to do, but I haven't quite gotten irritated enough to do it, would rather spend that time making music.

Torn•about 18 hours ago
I think it's a bit different in this case. There are plenty of modern synthesisers, from Korg and others

This is intended to be a faithful recreation of a classic synth, for collectors / rich enthusiasts

malthaus•about 17 hours ago
over the last few years there was a huge demand for analog synthesizers again after them being mostly replaced by digital synths since the mid 90s for 2.5 decades with users demanding from the traditional companies to re-issue the classics

they are classics for a reason and subtractive synthesis is mostly "done", so it's more about bringing classic sound characters due to subtle differences in components / architecture back

willtemperley•about 16 hours ago
> I don’t want to be sold the same thing over and once again.

I don't want to be sold the same music, algorithmically recreated again and again to maximise profit while circumventing copyright law.

A lot of people like analogue music. I certainly do, and I wonder if Korg are anticipating a reaction to the slop.

uwagar•about 18 hours ago
i am the other one.
curioussam•about 17 hours ago
Maybe not. But you are clearly not the audience.
steve1977•about 17 hours ago
Toys for rich kids with a lack of talent basically.
Cthulhu_•about 17 hours ago
I'd argue if they had a lack of talent they would prefer modern and digital alternatives - same/more/better sound and tools to churn out stuff with.
steve1977•about 16 hours ago
They don't need to churn out stuff. They just want to show off what they possess.
defrost•about 17 hours ago
If it's purchased as an idle showpiece toy, then sure talent is optional.

There will be a few old school Brian Eno adjacent types who'll want one to make noise with ... and some talent will be requisite to avoid sounding like a bag of cats being poked with a stick.

alwa•about 16 hours ago
I, for one, specialize my sonic practice in immersive cat-yowl soundscapes…