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thot_experiment•about 1 hour ago
Systems like flock cannot by their nature be good for the average person unless maybe they are democratically controlled with strict oversight and transparency. Tools to concentrate power are, and will always be used to oppress. Flock is not popular anywhere and that it's being implemented upon us rather than by us should have all of us smashing flock cameras whenever we see them. 1312
akudha•44 minutes ago
unless maybe they are democratically controlled with strict oversight and transparency

Lets say it is strictly controlled today. What about in six months? What about next year, 2, 5, 10 years from now? There is no guarantee that strict controls that work today will work tomorrow. The only thing that is guaranteed is it will be abused by someone, at some point, even if it is miraculously tightly controlled today (which itself is not true, as we see from number reports of abuse already).

The only way to prevent data abuse is not to collect un-necessary data in the first place

goatlover•12 minutes ago
I don't recall ever seeing a vote on this, yet somehow they are cropping up everywhere. When your representatives (local, state, federal) do things they weren't elected to do and didn't ask the public, really makes you reconsider how democratic the system is. Who are their actual constituents beyond getting votes for the next election?
foco_tubi•7 minutes ago
Eugene, OR citizens made this point and ended up getting EPD's and neighboring Springfield PD's contracts with Flock cancelled.
pastemato•about 2 hours ago
It should not be lost on anyone that this incident could have easily cost Joel Feder his life, all because of the officer's faith in ultimately faulty OCR results.
bluefirebrand•about 1 hour ago
What's that idiom? The purpose of a system is what it does?

Seems to me that we should be taking a close look at what law enforcement systems are doing right now. They seem to be producing a lot of fear