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swader999•about 1 hour ago
Because you get to solve real problems people have. But you have to work with real people.
BadBadJellyBean•about 1 hour ago
I never found programming agonizing.
tombert•about 1 hour ago
I mostly find programming fun, I’ve been doing it most of my life, but I will admit that engineering can be pretty agonizing. I enjoy the stuff, I enjoy the algorithmic stuff, and I enjoy implementing the math and algorithms, but that’s only about half of any programming job I have had.

I derive zero enjoyment from Kubernetes configs, or Terraform, or fucking around with log settings, or screwing around with all the knobs for Kafka. That stuff is agonizing.

skydhash•28 minutes ago
> I derive zero enjoyment from Kubernetes configs, or Terraform, or fucking around with log settings, or screwing around with all the knobs for Kafka. That stuff is agonizing.

The click for me was thinking in terms of outcomes and system dynamics. So I make sure to get a good understanding of the final state. Tweaking without a goal is just playing around, or joyless work if you do not enjoy the process.

tombert•19 minutes ago
I suppose.

I guess programming to me was always an excuse to do math, not necessarily to build products.

marginalia_nu•about 1 hour ago
Yeah same. I've been doing this for fun since I was like 9 years old. 30 years later it's still fun.
giancarlostoro•about 1 hour ago
You must not talk to other developers ;)

But seriously, sometimes its not the code, it's the human factor that's painful, other times, well it's JavaScript.

RattlesnakeJake•9 minutes ago
Or at least the culture around JavaScript .

I love writing JavaScript. I like React well enough. I'm not sold on NodeJS, though I'll accept that its struggles are no different than any other package manager.

I just wish the whole thing would stand still for a minute. It's seriously exhausting to keep up with all of the deprecations, rewrites, new "best" frameworks, etc.