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londons_explore•about 2 hours ago
Incompetence in the justice system is a good reason to keep all trackers on and privacy features off.

That gives you enough data to robustly say "look, I couldn't have been in this chat conversation, because here is my data from that day and you'll clearly see I was running a marathon".

I personally keep 24x7 audio recordings of my life to try to get ahead of false accusations.

nubg•about 2 hours ago
> I personally keep 24x7 audio recordings of my life to try to get ahead of false accusations.

Can you go a little more into the details here?

londons_explore•about 1 hour ago
Just a little DIY android app that keeps an audio recorder always going and uploads recordings to cloud storage every 10 mins.

It also attempts to transcribe the recordings and make a full text index, although the word error rate on that bit is rather high!

echelon_musk•about 2 hours ago
It has to be satire.
walrus01•about 1 hour ago
Audio recordings aren't good enough, this is why I keep 24x7 recordings of my life in 8K (4320p) raw YUV 4:4:4 color space video with uncompressed 24-bit audio. The NVME RAID array bills are getting a bit steep, however.
londons_explore•about 1 hour ago
No, but I do have other reasons for doing it beyond just false accusations.
RaSoJo•about 2 hours ago
He has been set free, but his entire life has been destroyed by this "subtle" mistake. Once you have spent time, no employer will touch you with a barge pole. (innocence not withstanding)

Do hope he can claim compensation...

nubg•about 2 hours ago
> Do hope he can claim compensation...

Can any UK lawyer chime in?

OJFord•about 2 hours ago
This is an error by US (Wisconsin) police misidentifying a man in (Halifax, Nova Scotia) Canada. Why do you want to hear from a UK lawyer?

It sounds like the appeal hasn't actually happened/completed yet anyway, that they're trying to raise public interest/outrage to help the case.

walrus01•about 2 hours ago
The appeal has been completed and he's been acquitted. Note the past tense in how the CBC wrote this part:

"The Wisconsin police identified Mr. Klayme as the offender using the incorrect username. His conviction rested on the internet username being attributed to him,” the appeal panel wrote.

The Appeal Court decision said no evidence was found linking Klayme to the girl, the Kik conversations, or the intimate images.

In addition to an acquittal entered on the charges, the sentence and ancillary orders against Klayme were vacated.

spwa4•about 1 hour ago
The justice system has rules for compensation when they make mistakes. They differ across countries, but one thing is for sure:

You, as a private citizen and thus a target/victim of this, are not going to like them at all. It's something like 20$ per full day locked up in middle America, and 0 for any pretrial detention. Ie. after 2 months your wage and/or unemployment benefits go to zero and if you're innocent you get what is effectively a replacement "wage" of 7300$ per year with deductions. Your rent, of course, does not go to zero. Nor does any other obligation, from Netflix to child support payments.

The main deduction from that 7300$ is whether or not the judge later declared pretrial detention the actual sentence, which they very often do, as especially in the last decade pretrial detention can exceed the punishment for the crime. This means everything goes to zero for pretrial detention. There is no limit to the duration of pretrial detention.

Oh and the justice system for adults actually does have some form of compensation, as in there is something.

If you're a minor, youth services, famous for studies pointing out every decision they make is based on incorrect information (ie. everybody lies to youth services, kids, parents, schools, sports clubs, and of course youth services itself, the justice system and institutions, aside from the massive difference in perspective, all parties are extremely incentivized to lie in essentially all situations, and that is perfectly legal), there is not any form of compensation. There are minors locked up in America with the reasoning akin to "We're 100% sure you did NOT do the crime you're accused of but we still think you need to be protected". Yes, protected, that's why there's no compensation. The prison camp with barbed wire (which you can see on Netflix "Girls Incarcerated", for example) is only for protection.

And you know what the really bad part is. In the barbed wire prison camp, you have the RIGHT to study, as a "protected" (ie. incarcerated) kid. In open institutions, you do NOT have the right to study. There is a particularly bad example of a kid that claims to have put a knife in the throat of a social worker to be allowed to study, and yes, he finished high school (at home, by the way, the prison camp didn't keep him there for more than 2 weeks after the "incident" and yes, they have the right to make that decision)

defrost•about 2 hours ago
Article Title: 'A subtle mistake': How a single underscore led to an innocent Halifax man's conviction
walrus01•about 2 hours ago
Correct, I might have broken the title description rule, but I think my description more accurately summarizes what happened. I don't think my title is biased one way or the other.
jsnell•about 2 hours ago
Your title leaving out the "innocent" part makes it a stunningly inaccurate summary.
walrus01•about 3 hours ago
Note, the post title field isn't long enough, this is a skyrim themed username used on a 3rd party service. Not for the name used by character in Skyrim itself, which is not (without extensive and rare modding) a multiplayer game.
oriettaxx•about 3 hours ago
and these are called 'investigators'?
hurfdurf•about 2 hours ago
Convicting an person who is not guilty, that's how good they are. /s