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isn't this why we went to synthetic corpuses anyway
Why should we give an extraordinarily claim like this any credence from the authors of a newly-minted substack who can't be assed to write more than a blurb on the topic, and whose listed credentials amount to a cagey statement that isn't even clear on whether they hold degrees?
You have exactly the same thing in software development: a closed source software released by an unknown small team that makes surprising claims and that show clues that the authors don't really understand what they are doing is also not trusted.
"Trust the science!"
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.13169
The "poisonous scientific literature" removal is on page 14. Look at the table. Removing academic pieces changes performance by on average 0.44%! You could sneeze and change the performance by that much. You could rerun with a different seed and change the performance by more than that. You could retrain on a different GPU that orders floating point operations differently and change performance by that much. etc. This is meaningless.
Also, the authors explain exactly why this happens! It's on that page even. The academic data hurts a little on datasets which aren't academic. It hurts on common sense reasoning like SocialIQA (Q: "Jordan wanted to tell Tracy a secret, so Jordan leaned towards Tracy. Why did Jordan do this?" A: "Make sure no one else could hear"). Shocking that you can't learn this from academic publications.
This is just substandard blog slop that give science a bad name.
The scary part is: "Dan Recht and Ben Reinhardt trained as scientists and now coach scientists. They do other work but don’t link to it here." As someone who has advised plenty of PhD students I can't find the words to express my disdain at that line and these jokers.
Regardless of slop, it's definitely no/low quality and a bunch of breathless garbage.
Flagging and warning others.