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shelled•about 2 hours ago
I will never stop yearning for iPhone Mini phone/screen sizes. But I've stopped asking for it because that would be pointless at this point.
mrweasel•about 2 hours ago
The smaller screen sizes doesn't seem to be something that anyone really tests for anymore. If I have to lookup something on my phone it's pretty often that I just give up in anger. Websites will have a header, and maybe a footer or some sticky element and even on the iPhone SE2/3 the result is having maybe 25% of the screen for actual text/content.

In the review the author write:

> The iPhone Air is the perfect solution to this, its screen size sits right in the middle of the normal Pro and Pro Max sized phones

That's probably true for them, and a lot of other people, but I'd argue that it's WAY to large. The Air is larger in all dimensions, except it's 1,7mm thinner, it even weighs more than the SE. It's also larger than the iPhone 17, but lighter and thinner. I don't really get the need for the phone to be thinner, if you're just going to make it larger in all other directions.

To some extend I get the larger screen, because it's just because it's not made for me. I don't use my phone for much other than calls and a few apps, but for a ton of people it's their only computing device, so a slightly larger screen makes a difference. I just wish that Apple would also make a device for people who just needs their smartphone or the occasional parking app and mobile payments, but who doesn't care about the browser, video and to some extend the camera.

Ntrails•about 2 hours ago
I have an iPhone SE and will hold onto it until the day they make something vaguely commensurate but better.

It isn't like I would be rushing to upgrade anyway but the refusal to cater is tiresome

PlunderBunny•about 2 hours ago
I’m still on my iPhone 12 mini, so when I have to eventually replace it, I’ll upgrade to a iPhone 13 mini.
codetiger•about 2 hours ago
Am on my 11 Pro, its not giving up yet.
jbverschoor•about 2 hours ago
The air is the new mini. With the same amount of low sales.

It's under appreciated because of the "Pro" label of the Pro, and because of battery-hell.

mrweasel•about 2 hours ago
The mini didn't even sell that badly, it just sold incredibly poorly for an iPhone. For almost any other brand it would have been a massive success.
birdfood•about 2 hours ago
I too (like the other repliers) am using a 13 mini. And I likely will replace it with another refurbished one when I must.
michielt•about 2 hours ago
Same! I still using my iphone 13 mini. Only the camera sucks when I look at somebodys else his holiday pictures on their phones.
frizlab•about 2 hours ago
Same. I still use the 13 mini, and will probably buy it again refurb when mine dies.
abujazar•about 2 hours ago
I have thoughts on the Air and all other iPhone models: They're too large. The iPhone 4 was perfectly sized and we have the technology now to build a super powerful phone of that size. I simply don't use my phone for anything that requires a larger screen. Smaller screens also encourages better UI design.
heliographe•about 2 hours ago
> The ultrawide lens is not one I used a ton on previous iPhones, so outside of macro mode I don’t really miss it. I’m surprised though that I really miss the telephoto lens. There’s so many options where I want to see something that’s further away, like something when watching sports, or even a cool bird, and cropping in on the main sensor is such a far cry from a 5x telephoto lens.

I think this is a situation where the enthusiasts care more about the telephoto (for intentional photographic compositions), but the mainstream user base uses the Ultrawide more (for inside shots, group photos, etc) - so Apple caters to the latter, to the dismay of the former.

> Camera quality feels as good as ever, it’s apparently not as good a main sensor as the Pro iPhones but I can’t really tell. It still has that distinctly over-processed look plaguing modern smartphones

Same here - photography-minded users hate the over processed look, but the general population must like them, otherwise there's no way that manufacturers would persist doubling down on it year-after-year.

pea•about 2 hours ago
That's a great idea with the e-reader.

I would love for someone to design a great case with a built in e-reader on the back. Most of the existing ones seem geared for displaying colour photos; I'd like one built for reading, powered by NFC. It should easily sync up with the phone itself to send over articles, books, etc. Bonus if I can write on it.

reustle•about 2 hours ago
https://www.inkcase.com/inkcase-for-iphone/

A few options exist in the market

petercooper•about 2 hours ago
I bought one as it was on sale at the same price as the normal iPhone. Pretty good: 8/10. I have no interest in photos, don't need long battery life, and the lighter/thinner the better.

That said, I'd prefer something smaller but thicker with no protrusions/camera bump at all. I hate the wonkiness of all modern iPhones when sat on a table. I think the last totally flat one was the iPhone 5s!

vichoiglesias•about 2 hours ago
Got the iPhone Pro Max in beautiful orange... and could't get use to it. It feels heavier that the previous titanium versions, so sold it and got the Air. The lack of telephoto is indeed one of the things i miss the most, but the single speaker is surprisingly good IMO. Really enjoying the design of it, feels like what i remember felt holding one of this really cool iPod nano back in the day, like old Apple magic.
ChrisRR•about 1 hour ago
Describing current phones as slabs? No. Modern phone are in no way too thick
NetOpWibby•about 2 hours ago
The iPhone Air is super compelling to me but my Pro iPhone doubles as my camera. The single camera on the Air is too much of a compromise for me.

Hopefully Apple can improve the Air.

boredishBoi•about 2 hours ago
In Australia the price difference between an air and a 17 is only $50 which imo makes it great value.
Havoc•about 1 hour ago
I moved from max to pro with the 14 -> 17. They’re about the same size ironically so can’t imagine how unwieldy the 17 max is
artisinal•about 3 hours ago
I’d buy it if it had a SIM-card slot and video-out. Shame those had to be sacrificed for thin-ness. I travel plenty and those features are really nice to have. The regular 17 is better suited for me now.
throwaway270925•about 2 hours ago
Try the S25 Edge, it has both! Also DEX and a better camera setup too!
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kotaKat•about 2 hours ago
The iPhone Air is a weird phone but that's mainly because it's a test device in production.

Everything on the Air is something Apple wanted to test ahead of the foldable iPhone. The weird big battery, the single speaker, the mainboard under the bump, and all of the custom silicon they threw at it (from the modem to the WiFi chipsets).

Same reason the 16e existed, not to sell a cheap iPhone, but to test the C1 modem in production as a "finally ready to ship in beta" product they didn't slap the beta label on.

hk__2•about 3 hours ago
For anyone wondering, it’s 5.64 mm thick vs. 8.75 mm for the Pro version.
ctippett•about 2 hours ago
> typing is a joy on the increased size

Huh.

I hate typing on my phone (iPhone 16e). It actually never occurred to me that maybe I'd have a better time with a larger screen. Although I don't remember ever feeling the disdain I have for typing back when I had an iPhone 3GS which had a much smaller screen than the one I have now.

hdgvhicv•about 2 hours ago
I have a 12 mini. I did have an XR briefly but had to send it back because it was terrible - far too large.

When the 12/13 minis stop receiving updates I guess I’ll stop carrying a phone around. Which will actually be a good thing

Nothing (handheld) is as good as typing as my old blackberry curve though. Not even my psion5

bkaae•about 2 hours ago
Did you get older over the last few years? That might make a difference.
petesergeant•about 1 hour ago
> And it’s weird, because with the old wedge-style MacBook Airs this feeling never went away for me, I loved those machines and every time I picked it up I kinda marveled

I would love one of those again

formerly_proven•about 3 hours ago
Not having a second camera is insanity on a smartphone with a four-digit price.
cromka•about 2 hours ago
No it isn't, if the price reflects different advancements.

"Not having a OLED display and GPS in a 40k Rolex is insanity".

da_grift_shift•about 3 hours ago

    >thinnest iphone ever
    >slaps 0.2" thick xteink ereader on back
cromka•about 2 hours ago
"As a bonus my iPhone Pro can’t fit one of those tiny Xteink readers on the back, but my Air can perfectly!"

Seriously, what do you find SO ironic about what they said?

This sarcastic, no-effort criticism on HN these days is seriously annoying.

timothyduong•about 2 hours ago
Because it’d be even thicker with a thicker device?
ballooney•about 2 hours ago
> I’ve always been a sucker for something novel, so when something as huge as the iPhone had a quirky new model I was really stoked to check it out.

This is just... not a life well-lived.