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Ask HN: Any tips for a college freshman enrolled in computer science?

NNotParth11 about 3 hours ago 21 comments

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College is going to start in a few days. But seeing the job market, I'm a little scared. What do you all recommend that i should focus on so i can be employable and actually have a job by the time college ends?
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qazxcvbnmlp•about 2 hours ago
Don't spend too much time online. The collective conscious of online can be disconnected from reality. People who aren't successful tend to spend their time complaining online whereas you rarely hear stories of normal people success online.

Focus on meeting real people and understanding their problems and how you can help. Your connections during college will probably matter more than a particular test score.

Get a job (any job) during college, it shows you're employable and can navigate with the unpleasantries of being employed.

Oh! And dont’ stress too much! Enjoy the ride. Think of it all like a fun new video game. Take in the new levels with curiosity. Have fun! Many people who have jobs now would love to be in your shoes again. Embrace it, enjoy that time of life!

tester756•about 1 hour ago
During last years quality of discussions went down, but still I disagree

on programming forums (actual forums, not reddit/hn like) we've had very experienced people like

1) world class / top CTF competitors

2) nasa/esa

3) HFT @ hong kong

4) people with experience across FAANGs

Those can give you many very valuable advices that your average college friend or coworker will not be even close to be aware of.

> People who aren't successful tend to spend their time complaining online whereas you rarely hear stories of normal people success online.

That's true, that's why you need to filter out bullshit.

sigbottle•31 minutes ago
Is irc still a thing nowadays? My dream is to find some niche 25 person irc channel and just shoot the shit at 3am lol.
btown•about 1 hour ago
Are there any that you'd recommend?
WhyComboNadir•about 2 hours ago
Throw yourself into it if you love it. The world is going to change many more times before you're even done your undergraduate studies, so there is no point in trying to predict it. Just arrive at graduation having had an awesome college experience (especially the people you'll meet), know how to learn stuff quickly, and be flexible.

I'm sure that during your studies, through serendipity, you'll find great opportunities to pursue that you couldn't possibly imagine right now. Give yourself the greatest surface area for luck to find you.

Since you posted this here on HN I can already tell that you're the type of person who will not be short of opportunities and already has a good surface area for luck to find you.

Good luck!

sajithdilshan•about 1 hour ago
Use AI and Youtube as much as possible to understand the core concepts, patterns, theories deeply. Don't study to just pass exams. Do it to actually learn because it's quite fascinating and interesting.

I've graduated college like decade ago and still I learn new things with the help of AI. I'm a visual learner, most of the time I ask AI to create a one page HTML with animations to explain me concepts so it's easy to remember for me. Further, there are so many great video and shorts that explains algorithms, DB internals, computer security, cryptography, etc. on youtube.

Always think critically, ask questions and never take anything as truth just someone says so or it's written in a book, it's very important to develop critical and logical thinking and clear and good communication skills and that would help you to find a job easily. Wishing you all the best and success.

ThrowawayR2•about 2 hours ago
Knowing how the software development lifecycle really works and how to write reliable, shippable code _without using AI as a crutch_ will put you ahead of your fellow students when you graduate. Don't neglect learning it, even if it's not taught in your classes.

Knowing the CS theory that college is trying to teach you well enough to apply it will put you ahead of your fellow co-workers when you are a senior developer. Don't neglect learning it. The people who say "I never needed to use CS for my entire career, lol" are the people most easily replaced by AI.

Don't neglect understanding how to use AI to create code but don't become dependent on it either.

Don't neglect your writing courses. Reading and writing clearly is how you interact with your fellow developers and, of course, AI. Too many developers are lousy writers and wind up stuck in the lower ranks because of it.

merelydev•about 2 hours ago
Learn JavaScript/Dart and Rust/Zig. Have a mono repo of all your code modules, never rewrite code, as you switch between projects.

Because AI is trained on the web, expect the fundamental building blocks of Software Engineering to not change in the next decades. Git, Linux, HTML, JavaScript etc etc all the abondoned code on the web. Familiarize yourself with these fundamentals and you'll always be relevant.

danans•about 2 hours ago
Have a broad range of interests outside of CS, and also develop interpersonal skills, not only for your own social enjoyment, but for interviews and compensation negotiations you will engage in during the coming years.
deadlast2•about 2 hours ago
Drop out take up a trade. It was never something that could be taught well and most colleges were a waste of time. Now it is dead forget about it and do something useful with your life.
SoftTalker•about 1 hour ago
Last year I had a guy come to my house to remove a dead tree. $1000 for two hours work for two guys, so $250/hr each. And that was by far the cheapest bid, I had a quote for $2,500 from a more well-known company. Yeah I know they have freelancer expenses like self-employment tax, insurance and equipment but it had me thinking maybe I picked the wrong profession. Climbing trees and working outside for that kind of money sounds pretty nice.
gnok•about 2 hours ago
It's a time of great change right now and fear is a natural response. The world is going to be a very different place in 4 years time. Try not to let the fear of an unknown future affect your experience in college. College is a great time to learn who you are, to learn what you like and what you dislike, make friends, understand people, pick up new skills and hobbies and drop old ones. I don't know you and where you're headed, but I know you're going to have a great time. Enjoy it and let the future come to you.
Aurornis•about 2 hours ago
You’re actually in a great position because you’re young and able to adapt to the world as it changes. Four years is an eternity in the job market, so what you’re seeing now is not predictive of what the job market will be like when you graduate.

I recommend keeping your eyes open and getting diverse viewpoints, with some caveats. Universities can be both fast and slow to adapt to changing trends. Your professors will undoubtedly be trying to integrate LLMs into the courses, but what they teach you will probably not entirely hit the mark about where the industry is going. You need to be gaining your own experience with something outside of classes, even if it’s useless little projects that you throw away. Remember to have fun in college, too, but balance that with doing a little more than just trying to get passing grades.

Avoid spending too much time in cynical spaces online that have turned into echo chambers about how we’re all doomed, this career is a dead end, and other negativities. Hacker News has a diverse set of opinions represented but it’s easy to get swept up in the hyper-negative views where we’re all going to be out of jobs and relying on UBI in a couple years. Online spaces have been excessively negative about this career for as long as I’ve been doing it, with the exact reasons changing from year to year. I knew a few people who enjoyed computers but talked themselves out of CS due to job market or online negativity things when they started college and all of them discovered that every career path has its pluses and minuses. It gets easier when you have some affinity for the work, though.

TACIXAT•about 2 hours ago
Write the code yourself, use AI as a tutor. Learn to start a project from scratch and run it locally from your computer for any language you learn. Use a Linux laptop. Network and be socialable. Apply for internships. Learn deep learning and neutral networks if you have the opportunity, GPU programming. Really though, follow your interests.
armchairhacker•about 2 hours ago
Find something you're passionate about.

- If you don't like programming, try to switch to a degree in something else

- If you genuinely enjoy programming, do not try to switch

- Explore specialty fields, if you're interested in one get a combined degree

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gcheong•about 2 hours ago
Focus learning well the fundamentals of the field as they will underpin everything else. Try to keep your finger on the pulse of industry in some way beyond whatever they are teaching in your classes (industry conferences, trade orgs, etc.). Try for internships during the summer break to get an idea of what people's day to day is like today and where it may be headed. Have a backup plan (e.g. pre-med).
recursivedoubts•about 2 hours ago
Here is my advice to a young person interested in computer science:

https://htmx.org/essays/yes-and/

TLDR:

- Knowing how to do things with computers will likely remain useful in the future

- Learn fundamentals using AI as a TA rather than code generator

- You must write the code

- Learn skills beyond just CS, such as communication & business

- Plan on using personal contacts for a future job, the hiring market is busted

jschveibinz•about 3 hours ago
Fear is normal. Jump in.

Learn how to learn. Get really good at that. That is the essence of your college experience. Perhaps consider a minor in a life science, hard technology, or other field that has good employment prospects.

Everything is software these days--it's going to be about applying software rather than pure programming skills.

Take a physics class or two. Learn how and why things work.

If your school has co-op work--do it. It raises your employment prospects at graduation.

Expect to have to consider multiple options/tracks in your career ahead. Adaptation and flexibility will be important. The world is changing quickly.

You can't study everything in college, but you will need to be ready to study and adapt in the years ahead. Good luck and do well in school.

One more thing: be social. Your network of friends will be extremely valuable to you.

SoftTalker•about 1 hour ago
> One more thing: be social

This is really important. I didn't appreciate it at the time. Get to know people in your classes, not just your roommate. Join a club, or check out greek life if that appeals to you. If you weren't very social in high school, now you're in a new environment. Nobody knows you, and nobody cares about high school anymore.

If you're introverted it can feel awkward but you're rarely, probably never again, going to be in such a diverse group of people who are all about your age and stage in life. Certainly not for four years.

RhysU•about 2 hours ago
Co-op every chance you get, ideally every summer. Start ASAP. Do not be afraid of off-summer co-ops.
int32_64•about 2 hours ago
Use college to make connections, it's pretty much the only reason to go as you can teach yourself anything now for free. Connections with students, professors, and industry.

Grades are important but in today's AI-driven job application processes having a 4.0 is less important than knowing somebody at the company.

jleyank•about 2 hours ago
If you want a developer's career, make sure you study something other than CS in uni. If you have some basis in an engineering or scientific field, speciality fields can open that can't be easily filled. It also helps to actually learn how to create something from blank paper: come up with an idea, spec it, make a prototype, cycle through revisions. This "muscle memory" is the basis of the software development. And it provides an opportunity to learn debugging - perhaps the single skill that will carry over into the AI sunny uplands.

And as others have said - do it yourself, put off using crutches such as AI until you understand the process.

WalterGR•about 2 hours ago
> If you want a developer's career, make sure you study something other than CS in uni.

You mean in addition to, I hope.

If you want a developer’s career, studying CS in college is the best way to get there. Full stop.

If you have the time, financial, and emotional resources (school isn't stress free!) then having a minor or double major in a specialized field will (obviously) make you more attractive as a candidate for a development role in that field.

bluefirebrand•about 2 hours ago
I've mixed feelings about this post

I have had a rocky but reasonably successful software dev career built off a CS degree, it's definitely possible

That said I don't think anyone should try and be "just a developer" anymore. The skills are too easy to learn for anyone who is motivated. The most successful dude I ever met in software was a tradesman that thought up a way to automate a lot of the work that went into providing estimates for his clients as a sales tool, taught himself C# and built it.

The code was garbage, it was buggy and messy and half the calculations were probably wrong in the end, but he still sold it to a competitor for millions. :)

I think a lack of experience outside of CS and Software really holds a lot of software devs back from building great and/or valuable things, because you can't have great ideas if you don't have a variety of experiences to draw from

jdw64•about 2 hours ago
Just try it out and explore a few different layers you're interested in.

The ACM curriculum focuses more on kernels, OS, and compilers rather than the application layer. It's great for understanding principles, but making money often happens at the application layer. Everyone's aptitude is different.

Programming has many layers. Don't get discouraged if you hit a wall in one area.just move around and explore different layers. You'll definitely find one that suits you

opengrass•about 2 hours ago
Invest in a good spatula.
giardini•about 1 hour ago
Why bother? Any short order cook job will provide you with their own approved cooking utensils.