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Aurornis•about 2 hours ago
In summary: Because OSM requires work and care to be put into the data submission plan, which isn’t worth it.

A project like OSM would be bombarded with spam and junk submissions if it didn’t have these barriers to submission. Understandable.

WhyNotHugo•13 minutes ago
This is partially because they import into their own system, and then export->import into OSM. At that point, they're considered an integration which imports data.

If their apps instead submitted directly to OSM (letting submission trickle back down), then the flow would fit into "user submission". Book Corners simply becomes an app though which the user performed the submission, rather than an intermediary exporting data.

mips_avatar•about 1 hour ago
I appreciate OSM for maintaining a higher data quality bar than other projects (Overture places are mostly junk outside of USA), but it's also just artificially limiting itself by not allowing streamlined paths to data contributions.
phoronixrly•about 1 hour ago
The streamlined path has always been to verify your contributions in the field. Everything else is of dubious quality.
arjie•about 2 hours ago
This makes sense, but I wish there was a generally accepted way to share geospatial data and POI data against OSM IDs. e.g. I want to be able to add overlays for noise level, etc. and I find the whole thing too fragmented. The OSM way seems to be the right way, but no one seems to do it. You just maintain your own DB with an optional OSM POI entity identifier etc.

I suppose if you want something badly enough you have to do it yourself, but it's not that the thing doesn't exist though it doesn't seem to. It's that I want others to want it too :)

sampton•about 1 hour ago
OSM needs a way to ingest "signals" instead of edits.
Maxious•about 1 hour ago
OSM has the notes feature which sounds like what OP should have used

> Example of a valid and useful note can be "a new road was constructed here" or "this shop is closed and does not exist anymore".

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes

farfatched•40 minutes ago
Yes, the data source is clearly useful, so not having it is a loss. But an edit is large enough a privilege to require all these checks.

Perhaps it's not that OSM that needs a signal, but perhaps it's that there's an opportunity for an open map that has many signals, of which OSM and Book Corners are examples.

Gigachad•32 minutes ago
Laying your own datasets on top of OSM is probably the most common use case. OSM isn't much of a replacement to Google and Apple maps as it is a way to build your own custom maps.
mxfh•about 1 hour ago
Also I don't get the point why you would want them easily scrapeable to begin with. If you have eyes to read and can walk across YOUR neighborhoods, you would have eventually seen one. I thought that was the whole point? They are not exactly hidden. I find those public bookcase incidental low barrier offerings to a reading exprience you just stumble upon, nothing you would seek out on a map.

Why would you want to have more people from anywhere else possibly raid them for anything useful? This way nobody is inclined to put anything worthwhile in there if it just ends up outside of their communities. Not that I'm in general pessimistic, just would like to know what is gained by putting the exact location into a map and not just have a list of neigborhoods with a book corner and optional photo on that neigborhood level, if people want to network around them.

neilv•25 minutes ago
Recently it's seemed like (very roughly) half the Little Free Libraries I see aren't in OSM.

I sometimes edit OSM, so I'm wondering whether any public bookshelf omissions are intentional, and adding the shelves would be unwelcome by the people running them.

Gigachad•31 minutes ago
Those people traveling to them are probably just as likely to put something in as a more local passer by. And I'm not sure why I would care that someone the next suburb over read my book. As long as someone is enjoying it, that's the whole point of donating.