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Reasonix is not great on all fronts, but it shows how much money you've spent at all times, it's fast, it's not a direct copy of Claude Code, and it is designed specifically to maximize DeepSeek caching, so it's free real estate...like a buck a day to use DeepSeek models hard.
MiMo Code is just cute as hell. It's got (mostly tasteful) animations and emojis and such, it's fun to use. It also is not a direct copy of Claude Code. It almost feels like a GUI app. MiMo Pro is an underappreciated model, too, at least for some classes of problem. It's very good at security vulnerability research, and very cheap. It's slower than DeepSeek and more easily confused by tools, but it's uncannily good at reading code and identifying security bugs (rough parity with Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5 at more than an order of magnitude lower price); and with fewer false positives than most models, including the frontiers. And, to keep it on topic, Antigravity refuses security work of any sort, so it's unfit for purpose. Gemini 3.6 Flash is pretty good at security work via the API, so it's not the model rejecting, it's the agent, which is extra annoying.
I also don't really get why TUI's have become such a big deal, other than maybe nerd bait. The only time I want a TUI is when I'm SSH'd into a machine, which isn't very often? TUI's have so many downsides. Selecting text is inconsistent, copy paste is inconsistent, mouse behaviors.. it's all kind of jagged.
First up - I completely agree that parts of the terminal experience are decidedly lackluster, you can make them "fine" but the general experience doesn't align with consistent OS principles users are familiar with, and I agree that good mouse support, expected copy and paste, selection behaviors, adding files/attachments to prompts, etc... all could be better (and actually are mostly better on decent modern terminals, as an aside)
But... And this is the big but... LLMs are basically text IO systems. And terminals are designed from the ground up to allow text IO to control the entire system, including the TUI (ex - multiplayer agent tmux is a fun demo).
It's a genuinely powerful pairing, and basically ALL of the non-TUI systems basically end up just embedding a terminal [cough* xterm *cough] and becoming a non-standard TUI themselves, anyways.
So TUIs have become a big deal because it's the obvious and easy way to give an LLM "computer use" skills, without spending a fortune on tokens doing graphical processing for GUIs, which are geared towards humans and not agents, and are generally less powerful anyways.
And not sandboxing your agents seems insane.
Well, that's your need and it is fine. For me, I want TUIs all the time for everything. They blend really nice with... well, all the other TUI tools I already use all the time.
Coordination overhead and duplicated work are usually where these systems start to fall apart for me.
https://github.com/kunchenguid/firstmate
Not affiliated, just started using a few weeks back and am pleasantly surprised how well it works even with rather dumb agents.