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Discussion (6 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews

abofh•about 1 hour ago
It got the executives it paid for
sudo_cowsay•about 1 hour ago
All good things don't last forever. A organization or company lasting forever with the same goal/mission while using the same methods is a statistical anomaly.
wahnfrieden•about 1 hour ago
What is the corrupting force?
sudo_cowsay•about 1 hour ago
The joy/energy and human element being reduced. Or sometimes it's profit greed. Or it could just be due to economic conditions at the time. There are lots of ways for organizations to fall. Pick your poison.
strictnein•about 1 hour ago
The people who cared leave and are replaced by people who just want a job.
mgiampapa•about 1 hour ago
Usually money.
shermantanktop•about 1 hour ago
Often preceded by the waning of the passion and self sacrifice that enables things to happen without money.

It’s sad when it’s asymmetric - founders lose their idealism and sell out while early employees fail to notice the game has changed.

But dreams are rarely enough to keep things going. And VCs know just what to say to make it seem like the dream and the money can coexist.

bigiain•38 minutes ago
Yep.

It can be power - see Reddit and Wikipedia mods - but it's usually money. And once VC fundraising is involved, it's pretty much always money.

tptacek•27 minutes ago
Which is another way to say "viability".
applfanboysbgon•about 1 hour ago
> Co-founder Michiel Prins was allowed to leave the HackerOne dungeon to perform damage control with this absolute banger of an AI slop response: [...]

Wow, it's like he prompted for the most stereotypically AI response possible. There's a tired trope in every sentence going on for four whole paragraphs! I originally quoted it too but thought better and decided to snip it out because I'm pretty sure it would get my account flagged by HN's AI detection algorithm...

bigiain•36 minutes ago
I wonder if that's the golden handcuffed founder equivalent of blinking out SOS in morse code?
cookiengineer•14 minutes ago
Imagine doing this article as a thorough writeup to provide feedback, rewriting this for like an hour before you post it.

And then you get an AI slop response like that in return where you can't even tell whether it was just a CEO not giving a damn...or a standard dumb chat bot with a stupid response.

I'm not sure if founders are aware that these are tipping points in customer care where the people that care about your product and ecosystem will leave your company for good, and you're irreparably damaging your own reputation.

If I were OP I'd never ever touch anything with a 10ft pole that the founders will build in their lifetime, and I'd warn everyone I know in the community about it.

That's the damage they're doing with these AI optimizations to themselves.

There's a reason why everyone starts to hate your company right after your stupid chatbot was introduced.