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shric•about 1 hour ago
I’m fascinated that some people in our field choose to self describe themselves as “elite”.

Are there any programming/computer science greats that self aggrandize like this? Is it a cultural thing somewhere that I’m not aware of?

kodoman•10 minutes ago
Most well known Dijkstra, who it can safely be said, is one of the greats. Though this blog post is a little much with the whole elite thing there is a little much, I think a rather terrible attitude that is antithetical to it is that of 'Democratization' which seeks to strip skill and need to learn from building and interacting with technology often at the expense of many positive attributes. It hates any thing that requires skill or simply prior learning to use well despite often these things meaning the system overall can better serve the user better and one the prior work has been done is more effective.

Further this 'Democritisation' can be seen as trying to deskill something that taking away many positives and having contempt for skill. I believe This is often simply to devalue software developers and I assume you are one so I believe we should both be cautious of this devaluation.

I think a more interesting question would be why should we not have elite's and I don't know if I am unusual but false humility always rubs me the wrong way?

jpcom•27 minutes ago
Roughly just over one-thousand people, precisely 1,337 people self-describe as elite in the field.
esjeon•22 minutes ago
Lisp is a highly expressive language with little constraint, so there’s plenty of room for individuals to become strongly opinionated. That leads to a bit of elite mindset.
BigTTYGothGF•about 1 hour ago
Describing oneself as "elite" (or sometimes "l33t") is something people in this field have been doing for a long long time.
aidenn0•41 minutes ago
And people who do so have been a punchline for a long time:

https://megatokyo.com/strip/70

aidenn0•44 minutes ago
I've been programming in Common Lisp for a quarter century and that list item made me cringe.
drekipus•about 1 hour ago
Too noob to get it
PrimalPower•30 minutes ago
I don't know if anything has changed, but last time I tried codegen for Common Lisp, the LLM would routinely mix up LISP dialects and language specific features.

Less so with Clojure.

wild_egg•23 minutes ago
I've been using LLMs for Common Lisp since Sonnet 3.7 and have never experienced that. Did you have a mixture of other lisps nearby to confuse it? Seems like an odd failure mode.
a2ff6eeb0•28 minutes ago
In short: sunk cost fallacy.