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Such a casino vibe.
If you see any sort of timer anywhere, you are in a Skinner's box simulator. You are being subjected to positive and negative reinforcement via the reward schedule. This is habit forming.
> Such a casino vibe.
No no no! It means we're all in it together! Feel the parasocial vibes!
Free drinks? Keep customers happy? Reward your heaviest users? Casino vibes
It's a slightly entitled complaint but when you 'waste' 80% of your remaining usage because you get a reset you weren't expecting, there's a ping of disappointment there.
It could leave them out of availability later when they need it.
To an extent I get it, this is not like a normal SaaS where you just buy seats, but their commercial offerings, especially B2C ones, feel like complete amateur hour. If they were selling literally anything else I'd have ran for the hills a long time ago.
I'll be switching back.
Seems fair, but then maybe the 5h usage should also drain slower during off-peak hours? Perhaps it already does.
> and (b) users on the Plus plan are relatively casual and new users, but then also just accidentally eat through their whole weeks usage and then are confused, making it not a great experience.
Wouldn't this one be fixed by making the 5h limit a guardrail you can opt out of? If so, then this doesn't work as justification for a mandatory limit.
which TZ?
> There are no off-peak hours.
Probably US west coast hours, but there's no public stats
At this point the 40 USD/120 USD Cursor Team subscription suddenly becomes a lot more attractive. You'll get more generous limits and a single monthly limit.
https://openai.com/index/premium-seats-chatgpt-business/
https://openai.com/index/premium-seats-chatgpt-business/
The annoying things is that you gave bigger tasks and is such session finished maybe 70% and after 5h pool resets cache will expire so that if you "please continue" it will wipe out again a lot of your 5h pool)
Tighter limits, forcing people to higher plans. Most will go as they are addicted and dependent on those tools. They need to use to finish the project they started as no human will touch that pile of code. If you didn't saw this coming, as it has been the standard business strategy from all kinds of SaaS in the last years, you haven't been paying attention.
I could burn through my Opus usage in 1 hour whereas with Sol, I can go 3–4 days.
Geofencing has been quite good at creating feeling of being ripped off in the developed countries - from which the bulk of the companies revenue come from - that companies seems to be dropping it lately.
Anyway - China's advances seems to have caught the big 2 unprepared, so price war seems to be going on.
And there are Chinese resellers for frontier models if you are desperate for high end frontier tokens.
It’s more expensive, yes, but I assume most people here use it for something that is worth spending money on?
I don’t mind the 5 hour window but this is a reminder to not hinge your workflows on any one tool.
However I think there is still a significant runway for these models to scale, so there will always be some sort of offering from providers. I can't imagine that our current use of the context window will be how that looks in a handful of years.
Maybe if we have some breakthrough in how to get equivalent ai capacity out of less compute it’ll seem crazy in retrospect.
But the magnitude of flops per token on SOTA models is mind boggling huge.
There's your answer
I don’t think everyone here is using Claude/GPT/… to create indie games?
If you’re using it for work then waiting another week/day/hour is a business expense, effectively.
Maybe it's like this guy I know who purchased a new-ish Bugatti but all the service is done by a local mechanic, during his time off, in a barn.
At that price difference, lots of things that are viable to do in whatever harness the subscription allows are simply impractical via API, you'd be spending a whole developer's salary just for the benefit of using a different harness.
I tried for example Deepseek V4 Pro for a bit (via API pricing), but it's _more expensive_ than Sol via subscription, even though $1.7/Mtok is a lot less than 20$/Mtok.
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