Google Antigravity introduces Boost deep reasoning (/boost)

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CSMastermind•1 day ago

It's impressive how badly Google has screwed up their models and coding products. There was a brief period of time I was using Anti-gravity as my daily driver when they first introduced it and then they just completely screwed it up.

MaxikCZ•1 day ago

Same. The reason I gave up was their limit inconsistency. I signed up for their cheapest sub and got what I felt was fair. I subbed for ultra and hammered the opus as much as I could - first week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used 80% of weekly limit. Second week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used up my weekly limit 1 day before reset. Third week I was hitting 5h limits by hour 3, weekly limit in 4 days. Last week Ive hit my 5h limit in under 40 min, and stopped using it completely.

My usage was very consistent thorough the month. I wasnt launching subagents, I wasnt working with more full caches, they just tightened my limits during the month I paid like 180$ for, which was discounted 50% for first 3 months, so they wanted over 300$ to keep the sub I hit 5h limits before my cofee gets cold. Absolutely insane

leoedin•about 21 hours ago

I gave up on antigravity when they retroactively changed the limits. I learnt that I'd exceeded the new, lower limits when I sat down to use it one evening - despite not having touched it for a few days. I don't mind limits, but something about the retroactive application and how it unexpectedly forced me to change my plans really angered me - I cancelled my subscription that day and have used other tools since.

A real lesson in how not to treat your customers. I would probably still be paying for it if they'd applied the new limits more softly.

freepiai•about 16 hours ago

Well the subscriptions are kind of coming to an end anyway because they can't support the subsidies. I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!

chermi•about 16 hours ago

There is almost no upside in adopting any new Google product. They kill or abandon almost everything, for decades now. Try it maybe. But don't build any reliance on it.

efskap•1 day ago

And these are the guys who invented transformers! How?

chermi•about 16 hours ago

Invented, failed to make a good product out of it.

dyauspitr•1 day ago

How? Can you explain how they screwed it up.

sanarothe•1 day ago

Also curious to see what issues people are having. I'm a not-software engineer but I use antigravity quite a bit for my own projects.

If you give it a task, it completes it. It might so a single agent chug, or delegate some parallel tasks..

The architecture is essentially what was agreed on during the planning and spec phases.

So I'm just not understanding like... The codebot produces everything I ask, I use Gemini all day every day and I don't hit limits.

I see that if I were trying to code 10 hours a day the limits might be a problem but... This is a personal plan.

So. When people say that Gemini sucks, or they're hitting limits, I'm not understanding what problems they're encountering...

cedws•about 22 hours ago

Probably like many big companies, internal politics, empire building. It would explain why their AI products are such a mess to navigate.

rbinv•about 19 hours ago

I think the question meant "to what extent did they mess it up" not "how did it happen".

clumsysmurf•1 day ago

Not just their coding products. Compare Claude Desktop / ChatGPT Classic to Gemini Desktop... Gemini desktop is barbaric with less usability / polish and more UI bugs than its online web counterpart.

I wasn't able to give the new ChatGPT desktop app a try because it insists on phone number for the registration flow even though I'm using a free tier.

AlexErrant•1 day ago

> even though I'm using a free tier

Erm, that's to be expected. GPUs ain't free. Anyone can make a free account and cost them potentially infinite compute, so a phone number is a way to lock that down. Might not be the "best" way, but hey: it's free.

mystifyingpoi•1 day ago

All these /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations seem to be just "throw more money/tokens at the problem and maybe it helps".

nl•1 day ago

> /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations

ultracode is different to ultrathink (because of course it is...)

ultrathink was "throw more tokens" (it was a Claude feature that has gone away[1])

ultracode is "throw more tokens AND write code that creates and orchastrates subagents": https://code.claude.com/docs/en/workflows

[1] https://claudelog.com/faqs/what-is-ultrathink/ claims it has returned, but that might not be accurate

nomel•1 day ago

"Hope" suggests that it's not backed by data.

jiggawatts•1 day ago

I found they work pretty well for security reviews or similar large scale, file-by-file transformations.

reilly3000•1 day ago

I had the same poor initial experience that others reported, but has anyone been paying for it recently and using it as a serious tool? Their new models are a pretty good value and crazy fast; I wonder if the Gemini on Antigravity output is overall competitive or has some niche use case other than being a frontend for Agent Substrate and their other projects

dpweb•1 day ago

Got off Gemini before they ended the cli, was not working for me, and went to Codex and opencode/deepseek flash v4 0731 which was working ok.

But got the google ai pro free 1 yr student - been liking agy quite alot actually - pretty good weekly allotment. Like the default, Flash 3.7 high.

Even bought extra credits I've been hammering it all day long.

People talk all day about coding but where this thing amazes me is devops. It hooked itself to discord so i can command it, set up or troubleshoot ssh servers on my home network. Blew my mind a couple times.

doix•1 day ago

I use it for all my non-professional work and I find it works well enough for me.

Mostly for things that I know are possible and have a vague idea of how I would do it, but it would take me longer. Some examples in no particular order:

* Made my wife's travel blog/site

* Chrome extension for Crunchyroll to allow multisubs + local translation for unsupported languages (so my wife and I can watch and she doesn't need to focus extra hard reading English)

* Same as above for Netflix

* Setup multi subs with mpv (some Lua plugin shenanigans)

* Setup proton for warcraft 3 + wc3 champions (unofficial ladder) on Linux

* Setup a bunch of xrandr aliases for my different monitor uses (I'm still on x11)

If you need a custom chrome/firefox extension or to create some bespoke Linux QoL stuff, it works great. This was all Gemini Flash 3.5-3.7 (been using it for a while). I suspect pretty much anything would succeed at these tasks, but I just stick with antigravity because it works for me(and I'm on some discounted plan).

yegle•1 day ago

It is used seriously inside Google (the internal equivalent version). Many people swear by it and many don't think it's as good as Claude/Codex.

efromvt•1 day ago

Am also curious on this! Though if it’s great now I’d need a sustained period of consistency (let’s say six months) before I try it again - the rollercoaster of getting a new randomized feature and quality experience every week got old pretty quick. (And I felt bad for recommending it to a few people at the time based on a good week)

alxhslm•1 day ago

My experience recently is that antigravity CLI is much better than Gemini CLI now. Gemini would often get stuck in loops before. Fine for personal projects at least, especially for the price (got a year’s sub for $5 on G2A)

But I don’t think it’s as good as Claude Code or Codex yet.

nullmatrix•1 day ago

My experience with Antigravity is that it will tell me it's completed a task or implementation that it hasn't. Like, the work is half-mostly done but not.

saagarjha•1 day ago

Judging by this entire page being the direct output of an LLM with little editing done at all I assume the feature is probably half baked and probably just a bunch of skills or harness tweaks? In that case, why would anyone pay for this at all?

dan_voronov•1 day ago

I suffered with Antigravity 1 and 2 for a long time (I’m not some weirdo, I just run a blog where I do deep dives into AI tools for programming=). The desktop version was basically unusable, so I used the console one. A couple of weeks ago I finally dropped it and switched to Pi with antigr login. With plugins you can configure it however you want. I just installed one of a deep-search plugins too: you need to add API credits from a search engine, but it can run multiple search rounds with a specified depth.

Compared $20 ChatGPT and AGY plan: my weekly limit on sol/terra used to disappear in one intensive day (or two normal ones). Now they’ve added the 5-hour limit on top of that, which is even more annoying. With Google I barely notice the limits at all — the only one is Opus 4.6 (not sure why it has one), and I only use it for double-checking sometimes.

The biggest problem is that the Pro model hasn’t been updated, and Flash just doesn’t produce solutions of the same quality as Sol. But it is matter of time...

ZeroGravitas•1 day ago

I got my account blocked for using antigravity with pi, has that policy changed?

aniketsaurav18•1 day ago

> Plan availability: The /boost command is available on paid plans across Google Antigravity 2.0 and the Antigravity CLI.

They are ignoring antigravity IDE like it does not exist anymore.

https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-ide

yegle•1 day ago

If you like the Antigravity 1.0 experience, Vscode+Antigravity Extension should be very close.

asaddhamani•1 day ago

> Google Antigravity's Editor view offers tab autocompletion, natural language code commands, and a configurable, and context-aware configurable agent.

They’ve had this weird phrasing on this landing page for at least 6 months if not longer. It’s clearly a landing page that receives no love.

0gs•about 19 hours ago

you're telling me an AGENT is CONTEXT-AWARE? what a time to be context aware

spiderfarmer•1 day ago

After everything they tried no-one ever expected Google to launch and immediately ignore a product.

For real though, I think their reputation with developers is in the gutter after years of trial balloons.

kllrnohj•1 day ago

And yet I just installed Antigravity, and it had a default checked box to also install Antigravity IDE. So someone still cares enough to try and juice the install numbers

jezzamon•1 day ago

It's because they did a very bad rollout with 2.0 which totally removed the editor, which frustrated a lot of people, so then they added all these ways to install the version with the editor again to try to fix that.

Their attention is definitely focused on the non IDE tool

unreal6•1 day ago

or alternatively nobody remembered to remove the checkbox

dr_kiszonka•1 day ago

I gave up on Antigravity when Google changed its rules around paid plans AI quotas, leading to my AI Pro getting depleted in up to four rounds.

Have they ever gotten around to fixing it or is Antigravity only feasible with their Ultra plan?

Zarathruster•about 3 hours ago

I'm on AI Pro. Quality is obviously not on par with Codex/Claude, but I can't complain about quantity. It feels much closer to the usage limits we had before the big nerfs.

freepiai•about 16 hours ago

I personally gave up on Antigravity. The App itself was buggy, and it's been awhile since I even considered one of their models (maybe I should go back?). As a small personal shill I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!

hedgehog•1 day ago

On the one hand this kind of harness work is pretty interesting, on the other the blog post is light on details and sounds like existing behavior of any high end model in Claude Code, Pi, or one of the litany of other projects that people seem to be cooking up on a daily basis.

AbuAssar•1 day ago

Where is the updated gemini pro model?

random3•1 day ago

I canceled my Ultra subscription after realizing I had Sol constantly fixing anything I tried to do with Antigravity. The most frustrating experience and a waste of money. I’m sorry for Google and hope they manage to fix their disaster.

eric_khun•1 day ago

I have some super specialized workflow I wish I can run with their model, but looks like they don't allow programmatic call (claude code and codex allows it) in their plan.

jezzamon•1 day ago

Not sure if it solves your problem, but there's a command line tool for Antigravity

0xEnsp1re•about 21 hours ago

their harness is so bad, just release a new pro model and improve agy harness

e28eta•1 day ago

As someone on a google workspace plan, where the monthly price went up to include AI features, I’m disappointed that google won’t let me sign up for antigravity development plans with my workspace google ID. To the best of my knowledge, as of last week, the recommendation is to sign up with a different, personal google id.

It feels like such a stereotypical big corp misstep, but based on the reputation that google’s AI products have, I guess I’m not _that_ heartbroken. It’s mostly frustration that they forced the price increase on everyone, and I’m definitely not receiving the benefit.

1Kapish•1 day ago

I really wish Google can revive Antigravity with some serious upgrades.

aboardRat4•1 day ago

Which Boost version does it support?

apavlinovic•1 day ago

Nitro Boost

johnnyApplePRNG•1 day ago

What's with all this AI spam for AI companies?! Seriously!?

Every single hour on HN it's OpenAI does this, Gemini does that.

It's all nothing.

Extra reasoning. Big whoop.

GolfPopper•1 day ago

The plates all need to keep spinning faster all the time.

soltanov•1 day ago

is google fixed usage quota in antigravity? or still is this a problem of antigravity?

Mond_•1 day ago

absolutely crazy to make this a "paid tier user" feature.

the primary difference between the free and the paid versions should be the amount of inference quota you have access to

pcuaron•1 day ago

Excellent, so Gemini 3.7 can trash your codebase even faster (but seriously: don't trust this model)

drusepth•1 day ago

What should you be looking out for as bad behavior from this model? I've daily-driven 3.5, 3.6, and now 3.7 for however long it's been out (alongside Opus, as I hit daily limits on both subs each day) and haven't noticed anything "untrustworthy".

azurezyq•1 day ago

3.6 is not good.

3.7 is very reliable.

jeanloolz•about 17 hours ago

same experience. I was disappointed with 3.6 flash, but 3.7 seems a game changer IMO. Gemini 3.7 flash is really really near frontier intelligence at an order of magnitude cheaper and an order of magnitude faster. The speed is a major feature, I feel this is overlooked

seanmcdirmid•1 day ago

Are 3.5, 3.6 any better? It is pretty flaky, Deepseek v4 flash is more reliable than 3.7 flash at least.