Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended

Just for reference, stuff like this is exactly why some people oppose the forced Apple/Google requirement in government systems like the new eIDs (eIDAS) in Europe. If you're forced to use Apple/Google for digital identification, playing around with your Google account and get it banned can have disproportional consequences. Suddenly you're locked out of all online government systems.

Apart from the products not being very competitive this is the main reason I'm reluctant to use any Google models / AI products. The account is way to precious thing to lose based on some AI classifier misfiring and then you know there's good route to get it reenabled.

I don't get these model providers forcing people to use their (bad) software. I just downgraded my anthropic account because I can't stand the bugfest that is Claude. I won't even touch google for AI. Doesn't matter if your model is good if I have to use your software.

I can be fairly confident that when Google says they don’t see your data, they don’t.

I am also fairly confident that nobody sees the moderation decisions either.

The larger issue here is the fact that access to an account can hold you hostage and impact your life in essential services.

We should really find a way to break the tightly coupling to these platforms, including mobile carriers, and not have to live in fear.

Having a real representative of each platform in a government branch under regular hours that citizens can access with their documents so that any issues with it can be dealt is a good first step.

You may also be banned by asking "sensitive" or "inappropriate" questions. So normal usage of Google AI products could also be risky.

I don't care if my Claude or OpenAI account is banned, but risking a Google account is different.

I've built a personal meta-harness on top of agy, cc, codex, kiro-cli, ollama that I use to schedule jobs, run oneshot tasks, etc. which provides a general API for my other personal apps that need to do some inference. For example, I built a personal trip app for an upcoming family vacation that uses the inference API to do things like research locations and plan routes, it basically just calls the various cli harness underneath, so it would look like i'm using them directly with their respective model.

I wonder if that would get my google account banned? If so i'm definitely taking agy out of the provider options..

Well, I’m glad I’m not using my google account for much any more.

Is OpenAI the only one that allows this? Because Codex without codex is fantastic.

What is third party? If I self-host OpenClaw, is that third party?

If I write my own harness, is that third party?

Insane policy

Why bother creating a CLI and OAuth interface if your ToS punishes for using it

Can someone point to a mirror of this X link ? It wants me to install the app to read something that I could/should be able to read using my browser.

I've had Codex use antigravity for subagents with 'agy -p'. Is that considered 3rd party usage?

Liberate yourself from Google - the de-Google movement is gaining more momentum every day.

I think an interesting side of this conversation is how the Google employees are jumping in with DARVO attacks, trying to accuse people of spreading misinformation when they're literally quoting the ToS.

This is something I've seen happen a lot with Google- their employees (especially the director+ folks) are absolutely rabid on social media when it comes to defending their products, and they don't let little things like "facts" get in the way.

Google needs to get a better social media policy because they look like clowns when they do this.

My friend got a ban by using Pi agent with Antigravity.

They un-banned him later, but that was enough to stay away. There are much better services than Antigravity out there.

What is preventing anyone from automating on top of the normal google Antigravity CLI?

Just google things. If you buy a monthly package, you pay next day, let's say on the 15th. Then they again pull the monthly amount on the 6th of next month. They pocket your money and the moment you have any issues, well, go F yourself. Everything is automated. They shove your arse out from any service they deem redundant or useless. They zero your data without recourse.

GOOG is like a soulless, flesh eating antihuman robot, junkie monopoly-behemoth. Terrible UI/UX, very good models, braindead execution. Protected entity, just like NVDA.

Btw Antigravity is the worst of all environments. No money for the braindead. Well, bring your money elsewhere, to small joes instead.