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streetcat1•about 2 hours ago
AI can do anything that it was trained on based on humans. As soon as humans are not involved, AI will have nothing to train on, and hence, the rate of improvement will approch zero, and the AI will collapse.
felipeerias•3 minutes ago
Nowadays training relies heavily on reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR), which assesses a model's output according to objective automated checks, not subjective human judgments.
bpodgursky•37 minutes ago
Human knowledge races up to the frontier through formal education and then nudges past the frontier a little bit at a time and AI will train on AI outputs that do the same. But, it will do it 1000x faster than humans because that's just how they work.
charcircuit•35 minutes ago
>1000x faster than humans

Some of the process of expanding the frontier is not parallelizable and is built on top of previous discoveries. And pushing the frontier requires doing things in the real world, or running experiments that take significant real world time that can hurt your 1000x faster claim.

Rover222•about 1 hour ago
what a dumb thing to keep repeating at this point
lolakutty•10 minutes ago
Why?
esafak•4 minutes ago
Because all the models train on synthetic data too, plus they can collect their own data with robots.
jazzpush2•about 1 hour ago
Just ignoring all the recently solved math problems human, huh?
tacomonstrous•about 1 hour ago
If you understood how they were solved, you'd see that you're only bolstering the point you were responding to.
needfish•about 2 hours ago
I wish AI could do my chores. Laundry, folding clothes, dishes, cleaning... That would be nice.
arcanemachiner•about 1 hour ago
If it does that, you should hope it can also stand in bread lines for you too.
voidhorse•40 minutes ago
Unfortunately that will never happen because the people who stand to benefit most from AI already have cost-efficient (see grossly underpaid) humans to do this for them.

They need AI to replace the expensive not cost-effective humans.

georgemcbay•about 1 hour ago
> I wish AI could do my chores. Laundry, folding clothes, dishes, cleaning... That would be nice.

Sorry, AI only does the fun stuff.

Off to the silica sand mines with you and the rest of the meat bags to keep the AI well fed.

charcircuit•39 minutes ago
Washing machines, dish washers, power washers, etc exist.
esafak•8 minutes ago
Yours put your laundry and dishes away?
Founderarcstone•about 1 hour ago
one day soon, right?
myko•about 1 hour ago
literally the only thing i want out of ai ^^^^

that said, it is fun generating code with them

Rover222•about 1 hour ago
this will of course happen in a few years...
dd8601fn•about 1 hour ago
Won’t matter. Most of us won’t have paychecks to buy it with.

Kidding (…kinda).