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jqpabc123•about 3 hours ago
Short answer is --- "Yes", hstory shows that reality has a liberal bias.

Historically, "societies that waste human capacity through exclusion and conflict" end up poorer as a result.

And the proof is smacking you up the side of the head as we speak. "America First" (aka Israel First) is about regressive isolation, threats, intimidation, open conflict, increased taxes (aka "tariffs") and economic contraction.

Deny it if it makes you feel better about yourself but the cold, hard results will continue to speak for themselves.

bitdit28•23 minutes ago
> "America First" (aka Israel First) is about regressive isolation

You seem to be confused about whether you want the US to be isolationist or not — or is it only humans that you don’t like that you’d want to exclude?

vivekd•about 1 hour ago
I mean Egyptians and Sumerians were some of the longest lasting dynasties and they were extremely regressive and exclusionary. They had a small wealthy elite and lots of poor subjects. Feudalism, humanity's most common and enduring economic system was built around inequity, privilege for the few and repression.

Assyrians were extremely successful and they would commit random murder of their subject population.

I guess you can hold a mirror to just modern civilization and say western civilization... If you forget the racism and sexism of the 20th century... Which leaves the current society and if you're saying the society you live in is the most enlightened and progressive well I mean that sounds like the definition of bias

rfgplk•about 2 hours ago
Not really, and even in your example, liberalism is strictly a right-wing ideology. The issue comes down to people using internal biases labeling ideologies according to their own in group biases, ie "left-wing is good and i'm a liberal therefore liberalism is left-wing". There are very few true left-wing politicians left in the western world (true communist/anarchist).
jqpabc123•about 2 hours ago
The issue comes down to people using internal biases labeling ideologies according to their own in group

And I bet the thought never occurred to you that you just did exactly the same thing.

    There are very few true right-wing politicians left in the western world (true fascist/dictators).
When one person is allowed to raise taxes, restrict trade, pick economic winners and loser by way of government investment and even go to war --- what do you call that form of government? It certainly isn't "democracy" or "freedom" --- economic or political.

The real truth --- there are no strict ideologies in the real world. Anything practical ends up being a mixture of some sort so we're really talking about degrees here.

https://www.connector.inc/president-donald-j-trump-s-governm...