Adversarial Fashion Makes a Statement on AI Panopticon

arjie•about 1 hour ago

Face detection on the example images immediately focused on the right part and after that recognition becomes much easier when you crop out the rest. Not convinced. It’s a cool gimmick though. I like the MARPATish look of the black and white one.

The most effective socially acceptable mechanism is a burqa or COVID mask or motorcycle helmet sock.

rusk•about 1 hour ago

As Phil Zimmerman might opine, it’s not so much about defying every attack, it’s moreso about making it more difficult en masse by increasing the unit cost. Though perhaps in the 90s surveillance tech wasn’t quite scaling as quickly as it is now.

focusedone•about 2 hours ago

I hope designs like this become easier to purchase soon. It'd be fun to experiment with cameras I've got access to and I'd totally wear it out places on the weekend.

Totally get that it's a cat-and-mouse thing, but I don't mind making more work for the people trying to force this on us all.

layer8•about 1 hour ago

At some point there might be a DMCA-like law that makes such adversarial clothing illegal.

idle_zealot•27 minutes ago

I would expect it to be covered under any existing laws about circumventing security systems or impeding law enforcement. A mire specific law would probably pass in this environment though.

Xmd5a•about 2 hours ago

> statement logged. standing by.

measurablefunc•about 1 hour ago

There is a lot irony in using AI to generate adversarial examples for AI object segmentation.

pixl97•1 minute ago

Why? If you complete the loop it's just a GAN.

threethirtytwo•about 2 hours ago

Nah these designs can never proliferate very far because you can EASILY train AI to recognize the difference between these patterns and an actual face.

You need to make a hoodie covered with actual size faces. That will fool the AI and will be harder to account for. Use AI itself to generate these faces so every hoodie has unique faces. Then imagine everyone in a crowd wearing this.

Boom. THAT will fool AI for long time. But let's not fool ourselves... AI can eventually even be trained to recognize this. But it buys us a bit more time before the end.

prophesi•13 minutes ago

It will always be a cat-and-mouse game. I don't think it's possible to have any sort of visual that an algorithm can't be trained to recognize.

sidenote: did Adversarial Fashion stop selling the ALPR shirts/hoodies? That was my favorite thing to wear years back. And they're probably still effective at inserting noise.

thenthenthen•about 1 hour ago

Projects like this pop up multiple times per year. Mostly one off student project, sometimes famous designers. Its such low hanging fruit that wont change anything. Better start teaching politics in art school?

drcongo•about 2 hours ago

Here you go: https://www.wish.com/product/actor-nicholas-cage-3d-all-over...

exo762•about 1 hour ago

Gait analysis - good luck faking your gait.

What we need is a legislative solution to street surveillance proliferation. Germans figured that one out, rest of the world is capable of doing it too.

fhdkweig•about 1 hour ago

A pebble in one shoe will change your gait.

nickthegreek•about 1 hour ago

Nothing a dress that touches that ground cant help obscure.

villish•about 1 hour ago

We all get Segways, problem solved.

rusk•about 1 hour ago

You need a system that does gait analysis, which requires upgrades across the board. All those sunk costs on pervasive facial recon systems. Sucks teeth.

andai•about 2 hours ago

Excellent, this will allow me to disappear completely!

Adversarial Fashion Makes a Statement on AI Panopticon

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