You can defeat the Dream Devourer from Chrono Trigger using an int overflow

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mitxela•3 minutes ago

Deshittified link: https://breezewiki.com/chrono/wiki/Dream_Devourer

falsaberN1•about 1 hour ago

I don't want Chrono Cross-contamination in my trigger, thanks.

Chrono Cross is a very interesting game on its own but it's a terrible sequel that is remarkably spiteful to its senior. (The thing with FATE and Robo, the Porre thing, the fate of Crono and co., it's a terrible fanfic made canon).

Trigger only worked because of Toriyama gathering the all-star staff (look up the interview with Torishima giving the details). Cross was out of his hands and it shows.

javchz•7 minutes ago

Cross has an amazing soundtrack tho. I think this is probably the main area where didn't felt like a downgrade.

But I agree. Chrono trigger it's the closet thing to perfection in a JRPG. Just pure mastering of the craft in all areas, music, art direction, gameplay, pacing, etc.

It's not that cross it's bad, not at all, has a lot of innovation, but Trigger has a big shadow to scape.

debo_•about 1 hour ago

I loved trigger, got to play it on release. I loved Cross even more. I played that one about 5 years after its release.

Cross has this underlying sense of menace beneath the idyllic (and wondrous) atmosphere of the archipelago. I think it's incredible.

Personally I don't care much about stories in games. Most of them are awful anyways. I really gravitate towards atmosphere, and Cross has that in spades.

noodletheworld•41 minutes ago

You can downvote the parent post all you like, but…

> Personally I don't care much about stories in games

I cant relate to this.

Chrono trigger is a game I love because of the great story.

If you’re playing rpgs and you don't care about the story or characters…

I have no idea. Its like reading a book and saying you don't enjoy the story; you're what, just there for the physical motion of turning the pages?

No idea. Chrono cross left no impression on me. I agree with the parent post.

SmasherEpilepti•10 minutes ago

> I have no idea. Its like reading a book and saying you don't enjoy the story; you're what, just there for the physical motion of turning the pages?

I think you were intending for novels, but poetry books typically don't really have much in the way of "story", just aesthetics. Even for novels, there are many that I primarily appreciate the prose. I love everything about the Kingkiller Chronicle books, but the prose itself is quite pleasant in isolation, and I could probably appreciate the books even if the story and worldbuilding weren't good.

Plenty of RPGs don't have much in the way of story. The story of the first Final Fantasy is nearly absent. Same with the first Diablo, and most roguelikes. Obviously, you can enjoy an RPG without caring for the story or characters, because the main point the vast majority of games is to play them.

monkpit•7 minutes ago

Why announce that you’re incapable of allowing someone to hold an opinion that doesn’t match yours?

Would it be so wrong for someone to enjoy something in a different way than you do? Or should they be chastised for enjoying it the wrong way?

You’re welcome to ask what brings them enjoyment, to broaden your views, instead of dismissing them.

nubinetwork•about 1 hour ago

The elixir glitch works on a lot of bosses...

shusaku•18 minutes ago

I feel like this is particularly amusing though because as I understand it this boss is not in the original game. So on a DS which is so powerful you should never have glitches due to such technical limitations, the developers flew insanely close to the sun.

acbart•about 1 hour ago

There's a live music concert for Chrono Trigger playing right now. That game had one of the best soundtracks of all time.

jMyles•3 minutes ago

I cut a one-take version of Frog with some of my fav. musicians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCuDk18gGRc

ramesh31•26 minutes ago

>"That game had one of the best soundtracks of all time."

Agreed, there's just something really special about it. You may appreciate these guys, I've had their playlist on repeat for years while working: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p636Rw_L3XU&list=PL1FBFF9D52E7...

tfigueroa•14 minutes ago

100%, really a fantastic soundtrack - still gives me chills.

Thank you for sharing this - here’s what I’ve had on my playlist recently: https://youtu.be/zWeGxKsPXZ4

Founderarcstone•about 3 hours ago

One of the best games ever made very cool you made this.

sph•about 2 hours ago

Yet another downside of using ‘safe’ languages. You don’t get cool stuff like this.

JoshTriplett•7 minutes ago

I remember the days of DOS and getting a direct pointer to video memory. And I've enjoyed the long history of video game exploits and even arbitrary code execution. But at the same time, I'm also glad that era is over. The same bugs that help you jailbreak a phone can also be the bugs that help you gain illicit access to one.

CodesInChaos•about 1 hour ago

Many safe languages still suffer from integer overflows. For example in Rust and C# you can pick between an exception being thrown, or silent wrapping when an overflow happens.

surgical_fire•about 1 hour ago

Nuclear Gandhi would never have been a thing.

ufo•about 1 hour ago

Nuclear Gandhi is an urban legend though. Turns out there was no such bug back in Civ 1.