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mediaman•32 minutes ago
The article doesn't mention this, of course, but Meta prohibits "socially sensitive" advertising due to the EU's TTPA law, or "Transparency and Targeting of Political Advertising."

It imposes substantial bureaucratic compliance burden on advertising platforms to accept ads that deal with political issues.

Meta decided that the revenue wasn't worth the compliance burden, so they do not accept any political advertising at all. They filter anything that smells like political or social issues, whether it be a campaign about anti-immigration or a play about feminism, because if they accept it they will get heavily fined by the EU.

This is why Meta does not ban this advertising outside of the EU. It's a EU regulatory problem. The Register does not mention this anywhere in the article.

dgellow•19 minutes ago
That’s not true, you’re repeating the exact same wrong statement that has been said multiple times in the comments. The EU requires political ads to be labeled and restricts how targeted they can be. There is no EU regulation forcing Meta to ban anything. It’s very clearly a Meta problem, they are the ones deciding to make a blanket ban on ads for social issues (or at least say they are doing it, in practice that doesn’t seem to be the case, we don’t have a lack of such advertising in the EU)
mediaman•less than a minute ago
I did not say the EU forces Meta to ban it; perhaps you should re-read the comment.

It does impose significant compliance burdens with massive fines.

You have to report who paid for the ad, where the money came from, what political process it relates to, you have to do this through the entire chain (i.e., ad agency, ad exchanges, publishers), you have to attest to the ad's accuracy, they have to publish all the information through a central EU repository, they are not allowed to use any person-level ad targeting, they have to track whether it pertains to any active EU bill or legislative process within three months of decision-making and, if so, they have to attest that the entity and funds come only from the EU (not just directly, but indirectly).

The penalties for mistakes are enormous. The act allows penalties of up to 6% of global revenue. That's around $10 billion for Meta.

I'm pretty sure I would make the same decision when the EU is threatening to fine me for $10 billion for making any mistake on the rules for the TTPA.

dan-robertson•3 minutes ago
This seems like a distinction without a difference. The EU gets to choose their rules and Meta gets to make business decisions about how to comply with those rules. One can complain about either, I suppose.

I don’t know how the cost-benefit analysis happened within Meta when considering approaches but presumably they would rather be getting paid to show more ads rather than not being paid. Their policies may also change over time as they invest more in their systems or if the rules change.

Ultimately it seems to me like the real problem was that the advertiser in this case was quite tiny and the representative they spoke to perhaps didn’t do a great job of explaining the issue (and the customer was too insignificant to justify a more high-touch approach). Presumably if you’re paying a lot more for advertising you can get better treatment and perhaps Meta would also appropriately label political ads if you were wanting to spend a lot on them.

virissimo•4 minutes ago
> There is no EU regulation forcing Meta to ban anything.

They didn't claim that. Many EU regulations don't actually ban the thing, but make it more expensive, cumbersome, risky, etc... This has a similar effect as censorship, but doesn't imply there is some law that say "it is illegal to say X".

petcat•8 minutes ago
The words of the TTPA:

> liable and designed to influence the outcome of an election or referendum, voting behaviour or a legislative or regulatory process, at Union, national, regional or local level

Now, we all agree feminism is an important civil writes topic and Virgian Woolf should be (and is) celebrated in the western world. But how can a platform that is explicitly not allowed to permit advertising for political or social "causes" be allowed to run paid ads about "feminism" especially while Equal Pay for Equal Work is such a hot-button political issue [1] all over Europe?

So on the one hand we have the EU saying that no political or caused-centric advertising is permitted, and on the other hand the regulation is so overly broad that it is left up to everyone else to "figure it out".

So, as we see here, most social media has just chosen to ban it all completely.

[1] https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/ju...

ecshafer•5 minutes ago
> The EU requires political ads to be labeled and restricts how targeted they can be.

This doesn't sound like a good thing. Why shouldn't a political group be able to target people who are going to care the most about an issue/politician with an ad? Basically Meta has too good of a profile, so they aren't able to target ads. I would want to know personally, if Politician X is for/against a policy I feel strongly about.

ishouldnotbutk8•1 minute ago
This is to prevent bubbles, extreme polarization, and psychological manipulation. The goal is to prevent another Cambridge Analytica.
ishouldnotbutk8•4 minutes ago
>Meta decided that the revenue wasn't worth the compliance burden, so they do not accept any political advertising at all

Obviously, Meta's most important revenue stream comes from scam advertisements, so all other ads are expendable.

As far as I know, political ads just must be labelled as such and there are some other small restrictions. Definitely not something that is hard for meta to implement, if they wanted to. But I admit that fines are very severe (up to 6% of annual turnover, in theory), so I see why they don't want to risk it.

throwaway85825•13 minutes ago
Metas lobbyists wrote the EU law precisely so you could deflect blame away from meta and to the government here.
colingauvin•about 2 hours ago
We don't have to put up with this. We simply choose to. But our laws could be whatever we want them to be.
tygon•about 2 hours ago
Unfortunately, "we" is often those with the monetary means to make their voice heard.
p-e-w•about 1 hour ago
At this point, I suspect that comments like this one are part of an astroturfing campaign by the ruling class.

It’s the same bullshit as “we could stop climate change if only we bothered to bring cloth bags to the store instead of picking up a disposable plastic bag each time”.

“We” don’t have any power. And once you accept that, you can stop blaming yourself and your neighbors for the world you live in, and direct your anger where it belongs.

willy_k•about 1 hour ago
“We” do, we could, if organized. Per your first point, that is the problem today - agreeing on a shared goal rather than infighting about all the peripheral issues.
colechristensen•about 1 hour ago
>“We” don’t have any power.

<Ned Flanders' father>: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

People who say this have never tried, do nothing themselves to contribute to improving the problem or to convince others or the government to improve the problem besides perhaps complaining on the internet in a bubble of likeminded people who don't need their minds changed.

aworks•about 1 hour ago
Is this an EU or Spain issue? I regularly attend at a theatre in Chicago that has socially "sensitive" plays. I often see their ads on Facebook.
torben-friis•36 minutes ago
As a Spaniard, neither is expected. The most censor-like behavior you get is a random mayor from a small town that decides to not support a particular artist of the opposite ideology for public funded shows and it goes viral.

This is meta's choice.

aworks•25 minutes ago
I wanted to parenthetically say that I recently saw Job, set in the Bay Area. The show was provocative and contemporary. I don't remember if I saw an ad for it...

"Jane, an employee at a big tech company, has been placed on leave after video of her emotional breakdown at work went viral. Her employers tell Jane she must be evaluated by crisis therapist Loyd before she can be reinstated to the job that gives her life meaning."

https://www.writerstheatre.org/events/job

petcat•38 minutes ago
It's a problem with EU over-broad regulation enacted last year that is nearly impossible to comply with, which is why most social media has just banned political or "cause"-centric advertising completely. Unfortunately "feminism" falls into that category.
dgellow•about 1 hour ago
It’s a meta problem
mediaman•30 minutes ago
Meta does not do this outside the EU. It's a EU problem, and was caused by the EU's TTPA enacted last year which imposes heavy bureaucratic compliance process on any advertising that touches on any social or political topics.

Meta doesn't do this outside the EU, and they didn't do this in the EU prior to the TTPA. Draw your own conclusions about whether this is a "meta problem."

dgellow•21 minutes ago
It’s Meta lobbying against EU regulations that requires to restrict how targeted politics ads can be. Making it a Meta problem
MiloLeo•29 minutes ago
Reading other comments in this thread it appears to be more of an EU rule/law. Can you elaborate on how this is 'on' meta?
latexr•27 minutes ago
> To resolve the situation, Meta recommended removing “key words” so that the text doesn’t appear to encourage activism.

Move along now, don’t make a racket, don’t do anything to disturb count Zuckerberg and his masters. Go away with your progressive ideas like… Allowing women to express themselves.

sxp•40 minutes ago
This is a shitty article. It doesn’t mention that the ban on social ads in the EU is due to their anti-free speech rules rather than a Meta specific policy. Meta is in favor of social activism ads in general but restricts them in the EU: https://about.fb.com/news/2025/07/ending-political-electoral...
piltdownman•30 minutes ago
Completely wrong.

As per Meta's own guidelines, they simply require increased authenticity and transparency to run social issue ads that seek to influence public opinion through discussion, debate or advocacy for or against important topics, like health and civil and social rights.

Meta literally spell it out with an equivalent example of advertising for an equivalent event - in this case a 'Civil Rights Exhibition' - on Slide 6 as eligible to run in the EU.

https://efa-net.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/META_EU_Update...

martythemaniak•about 1 hour ago
Sounds like malicious compliance, they should get a fine for that as well.
roryirvine•16 minutes ago
Agreed. The other comments talking about the "heavy burden" of complying with local laws are missing the point - these ads would still be profitable for Meta even accounting for the costs of compliance (which, after all, are primarily one-off cost of implementing an automated system, and which can be amortised over many users).

The fact that Meta is choosing instead to refuse the ads is therefore purely performative and likely intended to elicit precisely those sort of anti-regulation comments in their aid.

abirch•about 1 hour ago
Maybe they should be forced to advertise "Careless People"
jmclnx•about 2 hours ago
Why meta is not fully banned in the EU is beyond me :)

I know banning or forcing meta to obey laws in the US is impossible due to bribes (political contributions), but in the EU I would think meta could at the very least be reined in.

mminer237•about 2 hours ago
This actually is a result of Meta being forced to obey EU law. Not sure why the article didn't explain things at all, but Regulation (EU) 2024/900 greatly restricts political advertising with typical vagueness, so Meta is enforcing a broad ban to ensure they comply.
tygon•about 1 hour ago
Information like this should be front-and-center. Call it malicious compliance if one wishes, but if there is one thing that is clear, Meta does not do anything (besides try and make money) without being forced to. A blanket ban on anything political does indeed mean a ban on all sides of an issue, even ones many would agree is positive.
tantalor•about 1 hour ago
It doesn't ban political advertising, it requires labeling/transparency, and prohibits targeting without consent or based on categories like race or religion.
darkwater•about 1 hour ago
> so Meta is enforcing a broad ban to ensure they comply.

No. Meta enforces a broad ban because they don't want EU to regulate them, so they drag their feet and create the most possible "unwanted collateral damage" so people will get upset at the regulation instead of the company. So, pieces like this from The Guardian are surely needed.

watwut•about 1 hour ago
No, showing ads for feminism or social issues related plays is not illegal in Europe. Nor fined. And it is practically practiced all around the Europe.

This strategy of "we will lie about what the law enforces, so that we can blame the regulator instead of the company" is getting old.

tantalor•about 1 hour ago
> Not sure why the article didn't explain things at all

The answer is right in front of your eyes: theguardian.com

thesmtsolver2•about 1 hour ago
So, Meta should be banned because it followed EU law to ban some things?

Wow, Europeans do have a penchant for recursively banning things :)

watwut•about 1 hour ago
Neither feminism nor social issues are banned in European advertissements.
ActionHank•about 2 hours ago
We just need to start pirate streams of football games and it will be gone within the week.
mhitza•about 2 hours ago
Why do you think so many big tech companies are registering subsidiaries in Ireland? (Aside form the "Double Irish" mechanism that used to be in vogue more than a decade ago).

Plenty of hands seem to be well greased over there given how long it takes to issue fines for clear&cut violations of EU regulation.

fooqux•about 2 hours ago
I'm not saying it's not bad in the USA (because it is) but if you think there's no corruption or bribing in EU politics then I don't know what to say.
1attice•about 2 hours ago
Although both continents are presently losing themselves to fascism, quantity still has a quality all its own.
ericmay•about 1 hour ago
You're on the right track but instead of losing themselves to fascism what you should more accurately be pointing out, in my opinion, is that in general societies are becoming a lot more open to authoritarian ideologies, whether that's communism, fascism, or similar.
throw9384848•about 1 hour ago
EU itself is very transphobic. Forced surgeries, some women are not allowed to use public restrooms, sexist ban in sports...

Very lgbt unfriendly!

pogopop77•about 1 hour ago
Well now we know Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Meta, apparently.
Illniyar•about 1 hour ago
Probably got better publicity with this ban then if they actually showed the ads.

My money is that this is manufactured by some PR team.

Possibly the Ad's text was purposely inflammatory (something like "overthrow the patriarchy" or something) so that they can say it was banned.

jetrink•about 1 hour ago
Yes, Meta has consistently acted with integrity and has earned the benefit of the doubt in situations like these. It's safer to assume that the massive PR team working for this one-woman play in Spain has manufactured the whole thing, including the damning quotes, which the Guardian has somehow published without properly verifying.
talon8635•43 minutes ago
The guy you’re responding to is acknowledging FB’s crap practices and is suggesting a PR team may be using that to their advantage for guerrilla marketing. Not an insane suggestion, actually savvy and common in our modern rage landscape.
petcat•about 1 hour ago
Appears to be a response to EU regulation in 2025 banning political/electoral advertising [1]:

> Ending Political, Electoral and Social Issue Advertising in the EU in Response to Incoming European Regulation

I guess rather than micro-regulate what constitutes "designed to influence an election/referendum, voting behavior, or a legislative/regulatory process", they just decided to refuse to run ads for anything potentially politically or socially "sensitive".

I'm guessing that they also refuse to run ads for things that are less socially acceptable such as anti-feminism which I would say is a good thing.

[1] https://about.fb.com/news/2025/07/ending-political-electoral...

piltdownman•29 minutes ago
Completely wrong.

As per Meta's own guidelines, they simply require increased authenticity and transparency to run social issue ads that seek to influence public opinion through discussion, debate or advocacy for or against important topics, like health and civil and social rights.

Meta literally spell it out with an equivalent example of advertising for an equivalent event - in this case a 'Civil Rights Exhibition' - on Slide 6 as eligible to run in the EU.

https://efa-net.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/META_EU_Update...

rayiner•about 1 hour ago
How is Meta supposed to police that line? In a democracy, influencing voting behavior is a key purpose of every “cause.”
eithed•about 1 hour ago
Where did you get this from? I don't see anything in the article mentioning that specific regulation