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saaaaaam•about 1 hour ago
Maybe the art is the letter and the resulting media outrage rather than the mural itself, like the Leeds 13 “Going Places” degree show.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/jun/08/martinwainwright

gchamonlive•about 1 hour ago
Art isn't supposed to be comfortable and it's uncomfortable for a good reason, what if this became a trend? Would it endanger the organic art scene? Can these coexist?

That we are discussing it shows that the mural, even though it's AI generated is performing as art should. Should we welcome all forms of art? If not, where do we draw the line? That's for me the most uncomfortable question.

OhMeadhbh•18 minutes ago
"Comfort implies art" is different from "art implies comfort."

Which is to say, not all art is comfortable, but not all things that are not comfortable are art.

It's perfectly fine for art to be comfortable. Stop gate-keeping.

gchamonlive•1 minute ago
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happytoexplain•30 minutes ago
It's a good question. I just don't personally believe it's a challenging one. I'm comfortable drawing the line at simple AI art ("simple" as in nothing beyond some hours spent prompting - for somebody who finds a creative way to take it beyond that, I'd come back to the question).
brendoelfrendo•24 minutes ago
We are not uncomfortable with what the art is saying but with what the meta-narrative around the art is saying, and I think that's an important distinction. Sometimes context is an important part of artistic interpretation and expression, but this time around I think the discomfort is that human intention is being replaced by a machine.

> If not, where do we draw the line?

I don't find this question uncomfortable at all: art is art if and only if it was made by humans, end to end. Human thought informing human action resulting in a human-created work. If you involved an AI, it is not art; it is a facsimile of art. If you agree that conveying emotion and meaning is an important part of art, and I think you do since you highlighted that art can and sometimes should be uncomfortable, then I posit that AI "art" cannot be art because there is no feeling, emotion, or creativity involved in its creation. An AI can only attempt to mimic human expression based on its training while the AI itself is incapable of these things.

voidfunc•about 2 hours ago
Artists unhappy the money train is ending, News at 11.
tom_•about 1 hour ago
"The money train". Very good. If AI ever takes your job, might I suggest a second career as a comedian.
OhMeadhbh•17 minutes ago
I think artists are unhappy that something that does not fit all the criteria for "art" is being described as "art."
gchamonlive•about 1 hour ago
Where's the money train in painting murals?
happytoexplain•34 minutes ago
Hideous.
cwillu•about 1 hour ago
Was that an N scale train?
jeezfrk•about 1 hour ago
Smaller than N.