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sublimefire•about 1 hour ago
> we found no immediate increase in key engineering metrics such as monthly pull requests and lines of code

> To establish a before-Copilot baseline, we used data from April, May, and June 2024. After-Copilot data was represented by the period of September, October, and November 2024

> GitHub Copilot usage varied significantly among engineers, the tool demonstrably fostered positive changes in perceived engineer value, reduced time spent on various engineering activities, and boosted motivation and perceived skills

> subsequent monitoring of PRs and LOC for participants from December 2024 to May 2025 showed no statistical improvements

> the implications of more advanced capabilities, such as retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) over enterprise codebases or deeper engineering workflow integrations, warrant separate investigation

I think it is just out of date, habits have changed as well. I have not seen much gain personally at that period except in the last 12 months. Also, models not named, token counts not shown. Not to mention it was the older autocomplete + chat that were in use, these days it is much more advanced with RAG, cli use, MCPs, etc.

aurareturn•about 1 hour ago
Note the timelines of this study:

4/2024: Baseline metrics

8/2024: Participants given Github Copilot licenses

11/2024: Conducted surveys, 261 people invited and 97 responded in survey

9/2026: Study published

erikgahner•about 1 hour ago
Setting aside issues with the sample size and response rate, the current progress within the field shows how difficult it is to study the impact of AI on productivity.

Even if the survey was conducted one year later, I would not find it useful to make inferences about the use of AI tools in September 2026.

aurareturn•about 1 hour ago
What's very weird is that this study was published by two people working professionally at Okta. Yes, the auth tech company.

You'd think that they'd look at how their own engineers are using AI in 2026 first.

Publishing this now is quite embarrassing.

thevinter•about 1 hour ago
GitHub Copilot is an incredibly limited tool compared to any real harness, and I'm so tired about all of these studies that claim a lack of efficiency while at the same time doing everything in their power to shoot themselves in the foot.

Also, it's insane to me that this whole article has been written without specifying anywhere the models being used.

Like, of course you're not gonna be productive if all you have is Sonnet 4.6???

jbjbjbjb•about 1 hour ago
I think you’re missing that it’s not only about coding. That’s just one aspect of the work.
thevinter•about 1 hour ago
Claude Cowork is also a better harness than GitHub Copilot. Many such cases. I never mentioned coding being the only goal.
njaa•about 1 hour ago
Considering the timeline, it would have been Sonnet 3.5