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bix6•about 1 hour ago
Wow this guy has more kids than Nick Cannon
dhab•about 1 hour ago
If this got onto Netflix, might have a wider audience
dfxm12•about 1 hour ago
HBO owns the rights, and it is intended to end up on HBO/HBOMax as a four part series. Interestingly, HBO's parent company is merging with Paramount, owned by David Ellison. Ellison is asking Musk for money to invest in this new company. So, Musk might end up owning it in the end...
paul7986•about 1 hour ago
yanhangyhy•about 1 hour ago
i do hope they can release it in china. chinese people do have a postive view of him.
sbseitz•43 minutes ago
misguidedly so.
clumsysmurf•about 1 hour ago
Hopefully the word gets out, because

"The Major Social Media Platforms Are All Rejecting Paid Ads for Alex Gibney’s ‘Musk’"

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/elon-musk...

notatoad•about 1 hour ago
clumsysmurf•14 minutes ago
Reading that, it sounds even worse...

> A YouTube spokesperson said the ad should be appearing soon, though as of late Saturday morning Bleecker Street has not yet been informed of any change.

> The Meta reversal is especially notable as the company had previously rejected an appeal by Bleecker Street, leaving it with few options to run ads on Instagram and Facebook.

> TikTok and X have remained quiet and continue not to run the ad.

Lerc•about 1 hour ago
I would like to see an accurate representation of what it is that is p with Elon Musk, but I doubt there will be an objective analysis possible until the impact of the analysis is purely one of historical record.

Even then history isn't terribly objective, it just tends to be better than what is said when those who say things can gain or lose advantage based upon what they say.

devindotcom•about 1 hour ago
kind of sounds like even you don't know what you want
SadErn•about 1 hour ago
Politics are so 2016. I just want a normal boring run of American ingenuity.

I feel like we're all required to declare fealty to a billionaire warlord and latch to their propaganda.

stetrain•about 1 hour ago
Does it count if your warlord was Dolly Parton, who could have easily been a billionaire if she wasn’t so busy investing back into her community?
jfoster•about 1 hour ago
In the trailer, there's this line: "When Musk says that the future of humanity is to colonize Mars, he is selling us dreams. That's not happening."

That irritates me a lot. Everything extremely difficult (or thought to be impossible) is a dream until someone (or some company) works hard on it and invests in it for a long time. Those that would criticize Musk & SpaceX for chipping away at this seem to be effectively saying "do not try."

gregschlom•about 1 hour ago
Funny, for me it's the opposite: I get extremely irritated when Musk or someone else says the future of humanity is to colonize Mars. If you think you can turn a bare rock into a livable planet, please do something about Earth and global warming first.
modeless•2 minutes ago
He sells the most popular electric car in the world and is building the largest solar cell factory in the US. What more should he personally be doing about global warming?
andsoitis•33 minutes ago
> please do something about Earth and global warming first.

Through Tesla and his prominent advocacy for green energies, you don’t think his doing that?

davidw•3 minutes ago
He's promoting the political party that denies the science showing that climate change is happening, so no.
ebcode•31 minutes ago
Planets are spaceships. Mars is a dead planet either because its shields[0][1] were disabled, or it never had shields to begin with.

So the first thing we'd want to do is activate a magnetosphere on Mars. I rarely see anyone talking about that[2].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

[1] https://www.nasa.gov/science-research/heliophysics/real-mart...

[2] https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/how-to-give-mars-an-atmos...

alex1138•34 minutes ago
Colonizing the moon first is not a bad idea and ultimately we do need to find some way of (in the far future) mitigating the sun's expansion, whether it's moving to another planet or something

Mars is just really far. You can send lots of robots. Human beings is a tougher thing

hackyhacky•about 1 hour ago
No one doubts that the work is difficult. The criticism, as the trailer makes clear in context, is not that the company is not making adequate progress, but rather that the public statements made by Musk about the progress of the company are not honest.
guelo•1 minute ago
I get annoyed by this type of comment because Musk is obviously an over the top hype man, he sees this as his job. And he has a long history of crazy predictions that didn't come true. Any other CEO spouts some obvious marketing bs and people are appropriately cynical but Musk's defenders just really want to believe.
ahf8Aithaex7Nai•16 minutes ago
I think the problem is more that people doubt Musk's sincerity. And I wonder, to be honest, how it’s possible not to. Musk is no Wright and no Bell. He should be placed in the same category as people like Bernie Madoff, Charles Ponzi, and Gregor MacGregor. But your perspective contains another flaw: In hindsight, we see the big, daring projects that were successful. What we don’t see are the countless projects that failed. That skews the cost-benefit analysis a bit. Especially since large projects have far-reaching, often negative side effects. You can admire Hannibal for his crossing of the Alps, but no sane person would want to be one of the many soldiers who froze to death in the process.
maxlin•16 minutes ago
Yeah. Peak exctinctionist talk is to plainly just state we're never colonizing mars, lets instead hate on those that put immense effort to trying.
jcranmer•36 minutes ago
There are, I think, two things that the documentary is trying to do with this statement. The first is to remind people that even visionaries selling their actions on a noble cause must still be evaluated for the negative consequences of their actions. In this case, Musk is known to be the cause of quite a few deaths in the world thanks to things like eliminating USAID [1]. People like him need to be fairly evaluated not just on the good they might potentially unlock in the future, but the evil they are unlocking today.

The second thing is to point out that Musk may not be entirely honest about trying to colonize Mars, just as some politicians may campaign on a promise to make a country great again while robbing blind the rubes who vote for them.

[1] Although I think Mark Zuckerberg still beats him in the deadliest tech CEO race, given the role that Facebook plays in the Rohingya genocide.

stetrain•41 minutes ago
Musk collects investment money for those dreams, but the dreams change every round. Now it’s AI data centers in space, Mars is old news.
popalchemist•about 1 hour ago
They are chipping away but their real motive is not mars colonization; that is a story designed to serve the venture capital needs of here and now.

That's the truth and that is what is being said here; it is not a denial that the chipping away is happening, it is a characterization of the why and how.

Spooky23•9 minutes ago
I find it irritating that otherwise smart people fall for the constant stream of shuck and jive from Mr. Musk.

It’s all bullshit to provide air cover for his sociopathic behavior and ambition.